Talk:District Municipality of Muskoka

Recent Dispute and Vandalism

OsgoodeLawyer seems to have a problem and he should discuss it here. No one would know William Calvert since he goes by the name of "Bill". As far as anyone reading this encyclopedia is concerned they are two different people. The same goes with Tony White of Muskoka. David Royston may go by the name of Dave occasionaly but the two are close enough to dam-it is swearing that I am not splitting hairs over his name. So what's your problem with this and the other part of noteriety namely... "Muskoka is not tittled as such"...--Wiki The Humble Woo 02:15, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

About the Bill/William thing, that's just ridiculous. First off, everyone knows that William is the full name that Bill is short for. And secondly, and more importantly, you're giving the name after saying the office he holds. How could anyone be confused about that? That's like saying: "Michael McDonald is the mayor of Boomtown." and people from Boomtown going "Michael? Michael's not our mayor, our mayor's Mike!" It's an argument that holds no water whatsoever. How could anyone be confused? As for the "not titled as such", it's more along the lines of why? If you mention that it's called a "District Municipality" but it is a "Regional Municipality", then why would you need to further state that in so many words? It's clearly stated already. You seem to think there's actually something significant (read: a conspiracy to conceal its "Regional Municipalityness") about the fact that it's called "District", when clearly it was decided to call it "District" because Muskoka was a "District" prior to being an upper-tier municipality, and so they decided to use that name. But the point in not needing it included is that it is clearly presented by the fact that it is called a District Municipality, but is a Regional Municipality. It's more a style issue that anything else. You seem to want to reiterate information, and clarify to the point of absurdity, thinking that people don't know how to think. The argument about people not knowing William Calvert is Bill Calvert is an excellent example of that. Nobody can be confused. _└ ^OzLawyer / _talk ^┐ 15:22, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I just realized something. A former CAO who was replaced in 2001 shouldn't even be mentioned in the list of senior administrators. No other former office holders are mentioned, and honestly, why should they be? I'll remove it entirely, and then we won't have to argue about the correct name. _└ ^OzLawyer / _talk ^┐ 17:29, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Go the the talk page and discuss? Come to the talk page and read the above! _└ ^OzLawyer / _talk ^┐ 18:31, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry but I did not see your comments here. I only saw your reverts without discussion. You point out how inocent the issue of adding or not adding Bill and Tony etc., and you also comment on the obviousness of the District vs Not Entittled as such. As you saw from the source of that information, those editors saw fit to highlight the fact. I also like to highlight that fact since it and of itself is something notable. Your tweeking eliminates interesting things that other people like to know and have highlighted. Since Wiki is a colaborative publication your AGRESSIVE edits of these nomial things is bothersome to say the least and leads people to the conclusion that you wish to censor the interesting thing I happen to contribute. You are pissing on my work unecessarily and YOUR ARE ACTING UNCIVIL and AGRESSIVELY for no legitimate reason. I know Bill Calvert and he always uses the name "Bill" and never William. Peopel who live in Timbuctu may not know William is Bill and not everyone in the world known such simple facts. You are being an agressive editor of each of these points and are nitpicking my contributions.--Wiki The Humble Woo 19:38, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Origin of "Muksoka"

While playing around on Wikipedia, I noticed that the Creek Indian word for their own language is Mvskoke, which made me think of Muskoka. Now, while it's probably not likely that the words are related, as the Creek homeland is far from Muskoka, it did make me wonder what the word means; does anyone have information on its meaning, and if so, could you incorporate it into the article? _└ ^OzLawyer / _talk ^┐ 15:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I've heard in the past but cannot corroborate that the word Muskoka translates to "Land of Red Rock" which would suit the area as the granite in many places particularly the rock cut between Bracebridge and Port Carling (Huckleberry Rock) is quite red. --Oucil (talk) 13:21, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

billboards

Please review the proposal to increase the number of billboards in our area; the area which means "nature" to most people. The "Green State" of Vermont allows o advertising billboards. I think our provincial signage is quite adequate and would like to see advertising billboards eliminated. ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.25.167.74 (talk) 15:50, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Are you sure?

generally referred to as the District of Muskoka, Muskoka, though not as "the Muskokas"

Hmmm, I call it "the Muskokas". Everyone I know calls it "the Muskokas". People who live in the Muskokas call it "the Muskokas".

So where does this statement come from?

Maury Markowitz (talk) 11:09, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Agreed. While "the Muskokas" may not be a correct term for the area, it is used frequently. Perhaps the sentence should be rephrased to something like "generally referred to as the District of Muskoka, Muskoka, and inaccurately, "the Muskokas". 209.90.140.72 (talk) 00:36, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

I decided to change it myself. Geographically inaccurate or not, "the Muskokas" is arguably the most common name people give to the area. 209.90.140.72 (talk) 01:05, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

The Muskokas refers to the hydrological system of rivers lakes connecting with Lake Muskoka and Lake of Bays (which includes portions of Nipissing and Haliburton counties), and has come to encompass the general area of the DM of Muskoka. However, like "The Kawarthas", the term isn't synonymous with the political region. The distinction should be made that the Muskokas is the geographical area, and DM of Muskoka is a political entity and the subject of the article. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 01:32, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

I like the way you phrased your edit -- much better than what I had used. 209.90.140.72 (talk) 23:01, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

History Section Improvements

I assume the District Municipality of Muskoka was preceded by Muskoka County, perhaps with different geographic boundaries, differing powers and relationships with citizens, local subordinate governments, and provincial departments. If enough time has passed, it may be a good idea to form a page for historic Muskoka County titled Muskoka_County_(18??-19??) because the function of the old county was quite different from today's municipality. At minimum, in the history section there should be a paragraph regarding the Muskoka County era with date of formation, maybe reference to the enabling legislation, functions it acquired over the years, etc. Then the start of the District Municipality of Muskoka era could begin a paragraph, with date of formation, reason for formation, enabling legislation, etc. By adding information on governance, the article will provide context that can guide readers who happen across early records that explain early exploration and colonization.68.32.154.213 (talk) 16:59, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps... although considering the geographical boundaries were the same, it's not much difference than a village becoming a town and then a city. The old Muskoka District contained different divisions (square townships instead of organized municipalities), but it still for the most part had all the government functions that it does today, save perhaps some emergency services that would have been provincial then. Really it's just a question if enough can be written to warrant a split article - Floydian ^τ _¢ 19:52, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. So probably a few stub articles for extinct townships, and the rest of the information within this article for municipalities within the District Municipality. The current article does not explain when and why Muskoka District, between 1970 and 1974 (I assume), became an "upper tier(?)" regional municipality (but called a district municipality?). It would also be interesting to know what happened to the old townships... do they still exist, were some amalgamated, did some of them contain ghost towns etc. The following links could be added to the article in appropriate places (Regional_municipality#Ontario, Census_divisions_of_Ontario) but I do not know the history of such a pleasant community.68.32.154.213 (talk) 13:28, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

I've tidied up the historical evolution, which was actually rather complicated. However, I'm still trying to dig up more information on an entity called the "Municipality of the District of Muskoka" set up in the 1870s, which was similar to a county but did not cover the entire District. There is very little online that relates to its history and demise. Does anyone have any info that might help?Raellerby (talk) 15:23, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

I spoke too soon. I've stumbled onto a digital archive containing back issues of the local papers in Muskoka, and have found what I needed to complete the narrative here.Raellerby (talk) 16:16, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

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