Talk:MyAnimeList
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Restoring the article
editI think this article has gone deleted for long enough. Recent coverage in the past few years and it's traffic have increased. (ex. https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurenorsini/2018/05/30/myanimelist-passes-third-day-of-unexpected-downtime/#7d96c7c37e9e) It's now the 480th highest ranked site via alexa.com. When this article was deleted and it was at ~4,000. (https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/myanimelist.net) It's time to recreate it. R9tgokunks ⯃ 01:10, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- @AlbinoFerret:, @On the other side:, @Kei-clone:, @Celarnor:, @Ursasapien:, @Sintaku:, @CanadaAotS:, @Nihonjoe:, @Knowledgekid87:, @Dream Focus:. R9tgokunks ⯃ 01:20, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- Those stats don't really mean much (480th as opposed to 280th or 10?), do you have reliable in depth sources that can establish notability? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:46, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- I already produced one in my previous comment, from Forbes. (https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurenorsini/2018/05/30/myanimelist-passes-third-day-of-unexpected-downtime/#5cf276a77e9e)
- There is also one from CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/craveonline-buys-manga-social-net-myanimelist/).
- One describing the site on Kotaku: "Many of these discussions occur on diary sites like My Anime List (MAL), which allow users to document the anime they consume as they watch episode-by-episode, rating each series and adding up the total amount of hours they have seen." (https://www.kotaku.com.au/2018/01/why-some-fans-watch-anime-at-double-speed/)
- We also have Comicbook.com: http://comicbook.com/anime/2018/05/31/myanimelist-down-issue-gone-security-problem/
- We also can find a ton from Anime News Network itself. (ex:https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-03-15/myanimelist-opens-manga-store-with-titles-from-viz-kodansha/.128912) As per the reasoning on Wikipedia:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga/Online_reliable_sources, it is reliable.
- @Knowledgekid87: even Anime News Network's article only has one or two good sources. R9tgokunks ⯃ 05:00, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Knowledgekid87:, article is now created. R9tgokunks ⯃ 22:21, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Editor disclaimer
editMany thanks to @R9tgokunks: for the effort in restoring this article. Before I continue working on the content further, I would like to disclose that I am a member of the MyAnimeList site moderation staff as News Managing Editor since 2012. My affiliation and credentials can be verified here and here under the same handle name. My role in MyAnimeList entirely voluntary, and I am not a salaried employee with parent company DeNA. I am fairly confident in my ability to maintain NPOV given the history of my work on Wikipedia, but please do not hesitate to alert me if you feel I have violated policy. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 01:21, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
Please note MAL should not be used as a reference (except for itself)
editPlease note that per WP:ANIME/RS, material posted on MyAnimeList is not to be used as references for anime and manga articles as it is user-generated content WP:USERG. The exception is if there are news notices from the moderators/admins about itself. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 04:07, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying this. Perhaps we need a message in a template on the top of this page that shows that? R9tgokunks ⯃ 04:39, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
Kineta7's reverted edits
editI am not a regular Wikipedia editor so I apologize for potential mistakes. I would like to request @R9tgokunks: who originally reverted Kineta7's edits and is experienced with the site, the restablishment of two of their edits, here are the reasonings behind them:
Currently on the page: "The site claims to have 4.4 million anime and 775,000 manga entries"
The source, prior to Kineta7's edit (which has not been reverted), is a 2008 article making an uncited claim.
Kineta7's proposed improvement: "In 2018, MyAnimeList reported having approximately 15,000 anime and 45,000 manga entries" Their proposed source is a 2019 news article from MyAnimeList's "Updates & Announcements" sub-forum, by DB Administrator Kineta.@AngusWOOF: has stated that "news notices from the moderators/admins about itself" are an acceptable source. The "Updates & Announcements" subforum is the one place where news notices from moderators/admins about MAL are posted.
Currently on the page: "MAL also starts challenges for users to complete their 'lists.'"
Kineta7's proposed improvement: "The MyAnimeList community also organizes various events related to anime and manga, such as yearly watching/reading challenges[16] and a fantasy sport spin on seasonal TV anime titles.[17]"
Source 16: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1760531
Source 17: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1802026
Again, those are news notices from MAL staff which should be acceptable. 90.27.140.50 (talk) 23:49, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- @R9tgokunks:: @Kineta7:'s changes have been reinserted, this time hopefully with proper referencing. 2A01:CB08:8B1D:4E00:5FE:46B2:332B:B531 (talk) 22:07, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
- Have the changes been reverted yet again? The current page states the millions of anime number, which is clearly provably wrong by anyone that goes thorough the pages, regardless of the source given. It is't possible for the site to have that many anime, the number of total submissions to the database, including junk like a hundred denied cory houses, were still well under 40k a few years ago. Until fixed this is essentially an unsubstantiated myth being reiterated verbatim on WP. (Apologies for formatting, posting from mobile.) 2604:2D80:DF07:2E00:50AC:4279:82AB:347C (talk) 13:08, 9 November 2022 (UTC)