Talk:Myth of the flat Earth
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Size of Columbus' ships
editThe claim that
Columbus's three ships varied between 20.5 and 23.5 m – or 67 to 77 feet – in length and carried about 90 men
seems to be at odd with the reported size of about 15 m for the Niña:
There is no authentic documentation on the specifics of Niña's design, although Michele de Cuneo, who accompanied Columbus on his second voyage, mentioned that Niña was "about 60 toneladas" (60 tons), which may indicate a medium-sized caravel of around 50 feet (15 m) in length on deck.[1]
Maybe it would be good to update the lower end estimate and provide a link to either the article on Niña, or to the cited reference.
--Marcello.sega (talk) 08:34, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ William D. Phillips; Carla Rahn Phillips (1992). The Worlds of Christopher Columbus. Cambridge University Press. pp. 143–145. ISBN 978-0-521-44652-5.
Fact
editIt's very disturbing when I intentionally ask for the last era that people believed the earth was flat and I get Wikipedia telling me about current flat earth is a myth. That wasn't my question so can Wikipedia direct me to my historical question or is it really expecting me to accept that history never existed as I continue to watch history be rewritten? 2600:8804:7601:7390:E466:D339:B73C:E44D (talk) 16:58, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- It would help if you structured you comment as a question instead of a rant; it’s hard to tell what you’re talking about or whom your dissatisfaction is with or even what article you are talking about, or what part of the article. As noted in the hatnote of •this• article, you can find a history of the belief in a flat earth in the Flat earth article. Strebe (talk) 23:33, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- In any era you will find people who believe in flat Earth, also in the present. So, such belief never really stopped. As they say, there's one born every minute—in countries with a reasonable education, since schooling is still a privilege in many countries. tgeorgescu (talk) 05:29, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Philosopher
editIn 1000-600 BC, who is the philosopher that assume that the earth is spherical 2001:4455:179:700:991F:7AA1:BA6F:8C6C (talk) 08:30, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
There are many Flat Earth Societies all around the Globe
editThis statement deserves to be in the article.
"There are many Flat Earth Societies all around the Globe"
It was removed for no reason.
RamotHacker (talk) 06:45, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- I removed it because it is an old joke, not very funny, but most of all because it did not support the mission to build a serious and respected encyclopedia, see WP:NOTEVERYTHING. It is not the first time this has been added to (and removed from) Flat Earth articles, so this removal followed Wikipedia consensus.Sjö (talk) 06:57, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Please explain the Biblical perspective
editThis article sounds like an excuse for the Church's teachings, rather than fact.
The Bible is very clear that the earth one of the layers of the world (below heaven, above Sheol), with four corners, supported on pillars and having ends. This was a common belief at the time it was written, and so it is unsurprising that the Bible says that. It is also well established that many people believe that the Bible is literally true, even when it conflicts with established science. The fact that this juxtaposition is absurd does not mean that it doesn't exist. This is not my original research. The two statements are backed by reliable sources. Please don't delete this section again. LachlanA (talk) 01:26, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- This article isn’t about that. It’s about the false belief modern people have that medieval Europeans believed the Earth to be flat. It’s not about ancient Israel, nor about the biblical view, nor about modern beliefs in a flat earth. I reverted your edit last time for the reasons I gave: it was not encylocpædic. I did not revert it because I am interested in apologizing for fundamentalist Christians beliefs. The content you provided this time is backed by defensible sources and is largely encyclopaedic (other than the last sentence, which violates WP:POV and WP:SYNTH), but it’s out of place. A better article for this material is Flat Earth, where it is already presented. I will wait for other editors to weigh in before I delete again. Strebe (talk) 15:05, 22 March 2024 (UTC)