Talk:Nabatieh Fawka attack

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Refs and spellings

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

If you're looking for more refs, please notice that Nabatieh has various spellings: Nabatiyyah, Nabatiyyeh, Nabatiyet..., while Fawka can be written: Faoqa, Fawkah... "Nabatieh Fawka" translates to "Upper Nabatieh" so maybe it could be used as well. -- Maudslay II (talk) 14:16, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Amnesty International report

Latest comment: 3 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

In this Amnesty International report, the attack has been described in deatail in pages 13-14, which might be helpful in expanding the article. -- Maudslay II (talk) 17:28, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

You might find this useful: https://etd.ohiolink.edu/apexprod/rws_etd/send_file/send?accession=ohiou1564927655951069&disposition=inline Selfstudier (talk) 15:38, 23 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

It might also help to cite in Romanization the Arabic sources which would make using the citational template easier. Nishidani (talk) 22:26, 23 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 10 May 2021

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The result of the move request was: Page moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm (talk) 19:32, 17 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Nabatieh Fawka massacre → Nabatieh Fawka attack – Similar to Zrarieh massacre (now moved to Zrarieh raid) this is an obvious WP:POVNAME without any evidence that it is a WP:COMMONAME. An examination of the sources show that few use the "massacre" framing and most, including all of the more reliable sources, describe it as a "attack" or similar. For example of the sources presently used in the article we have:

1) The HRW report which describes this as "the helicopter gunship attack on a house in the village of Upper Nabatiyeh on April 18, 1996".
2) The Amnesty report which describes this as "Attack on house in Upper Nabatiyya, 18 April 1996"
3) The PhD dissertation which describes this as "Israeli air strike"/"Israeli air attack"
4) The AP article which says "Israeli warplanes flattened an apartment building in the village of Nabatiyeh Fawqah"
5) The Catignani reference which says "Helicopter gunship attack"
6) The Washington Post article which describes this as "an Israeli bomb"
7) Fisk's book, which describes this as "another Helicopter-fired missile"
8) Fisk's Independent article, which is identical to his book.
9) The ICTJ article, which describes this as "An Israeli warplane destroyed a two-story house"
10) The New York Times - "One Israeli air strike today"
11) The B'Tslem report which describes it as "Attack on the Village of Nabatiyeh al-Faqwah"

Against this is only the Lebanese government report that actually uses this article's present name, and this is obviously not an independent, reliable source on the subject. If disambiguation is required names like "1996 attack on (etc.)" are also acceptable, or even "1996 Israeli attack on (etc.)". FOARP (talk) 16:22, 10 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Support per nomination. The eleven sources cited above are the deciding and convincing factors that the term "massacre" is not the WP:COMMONNAME as far as this event is concerned. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 19:06, 10 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Support Per WP:COMMONNAME --Shrike (talk) 17:54, 14 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

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