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Archive 1

Discussion: Appearances

Latest comment: 14 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

Shouldn't Nathan Drake's appearances be in chronological order? If not, how does that explain Drake's Fortune, Eye of Indra, Among Thieves? LosHavros (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:32, 13 December 2009 (UTC).

Depends on what you mean by chronological order? By release, this list is already in chronological order, Drakes Fortune first, followed by Eye of Indra, followed by Among Thieves. The list would probably become confusing if the thing that was released second was ordered first. RWJP (talk) 14:37, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Actually, Among Thieves was released before Eye of Indra, so the list is indeed not in chronological order. I assumed that the list was in alphabetical order. Lars Holm (talk) 09:16, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Nathan's age

Latest comment: 14 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

On the "The Uncharted 2 Game of the Year Edition" episode of G4TV's Feedback (http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/701417/Feedback----The-Uncharted-2-Game-of-the-Year-Edition.html), one of the things they talked about went:
G4TV Guy: "It makes me feel like I can relate to them, even though I'm not some 27 year old explorer who can just jump around in a bunch of dangerous caves."
Amy Hennig: "Oh come on, he's in his mid-thirties."
Should this new info on his age be added to the article in some way? I'd like to see it added, but I'm not really sure where it would go. Lars Holm (talk) 09:16, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for finding it! I'll work it in somewhere in the attributes section soon. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 19:24, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Images

Latest comment: 14 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

I found the concept art too similar to the in-game image used to identify the character. The overuse of two images to show practically the same character twice would not satisy WP:NFCC. As such, I was bold and removed it. In place, I added verifiable "free" images of Johnny Knoxville (the basis for Drake's looks), and Sir Francis Drake (the "ancestor" and a plot device for the game).[1] Note that while Commons have portraits of Drake, they are typically in the same style, lacking the "adventurer spirit" (and most do not have the necessary information for verification). Jappalang (talk) 23:20, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Bold is good, good indeed. While I thought the image was justifiable, it seems others shared your concern as well, and I am glad the person who removed them found other images to spruce up the article with. Also, the image of Drake used is definitely the best, since it does convey that spirit so embodied in the games. Appreciated. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 04:30, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Primary topic

Latest comment: 13 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

This article isn't one. Currently, searching Nathan Drake takes you to...well, Nathan Drake (not this article, it's about a 19th century English poet/physician guy). This article (Nathan Drake (character)) has a helluva lot more page views than the other. In accordance with WP:Primary topic, I'm proposing this article be renamed to "Nathan Drake", as a primary topic, and the other moved to "Nathan Drake (physician)" (or whatever suffix people can agree on). Any suggestions, comments, disagreements, supports or oppositions? Lord Spongefrog, (I am Czar of all Russias!) 14:11, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I am opposed to it, as it depends on where one is coming from. As Churchill said "Neville Chamberlain looked at foreign affairs through the wrong end of a municipal drainpipe." (Chamberlain's family made their mark as local politicians in Birmingham). I would agree that Nathan Drake is not the primary topic, but I do not think that this character is so well known either, so I suggest that we move the Nathan Drake article to a dab page and make Nathan Drake a disambiguation page. I had been considering doing this since I moved the section on Nathan Drake the elder out of the Nathan Drake (the younger) into a separate biography article called Nathan Drake (artist). Now I know that there is another article with the same name and a dab extension, it make it worth the effort. -- PBS (talk) 18:50, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

What makes him an everyman? He wears a t-shirt and jeans.

Latest comment: 14 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

But does that need to be mentioned THREE times on his Wikipedia page?

(Also, nowhere on the page does it quite describe his...Job.) 86.25.124.54 (talk) 05:20, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Who Nathan Drake is based on

Latest comment: 8 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Sure, Johnny Knoxville and characters like Indiana Jones are good examples, but I'm sure many will agree that Nathan Fillion's character on Firefly is a much better example, as it covers looks, demeanor, mannerisms, etc — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.171.231.83 (talk) 05:18, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

I agree. That sentence is just laughable. I don't know if ND is trying to avoid a controversy like the one with The Last of Us and Ellen Page, but Nathan is essentially Nathan Fillion in game form. They even have the same name!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.168.207.237 (talk) 13:10, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

New editor looking to help

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello everyone, I noticed this page in the list of "articles needing copy editing." Is there anything specifically I can work on? I was reading through the article looking for grammatical errors, but everything looks solid and well sourced. I appreciate any feedback, just looking for something to help on because I absolutely love this series! Nazrok (talk) 22:13, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

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Comparison to rapper Drake

Latest comment: 7 years ago7 comments7 people in discussion

There are two sources cited in this article that compare Nathan Drake to the rapper Drake: an article from Yahoo, which briefly and jokingly mentions that they share the same name (in a throwaway sentence at the end of the article); and an arguably humorous tweet from PlayStation UK, featuring an image of the treasure hunter with the rapper in the background (I should note that the previous source used for this was a Twinfinite article, but since Twinfinite is not considered a reliable source, this is not much better). These are certainly not comparisons between the character and the rapper, and only one could be considered a slight reference (a more suitable word would be allusion) at best. I don't think they warrant inclusion in the article. – Rhain ☔ 06:13, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

The only way that the comparison should be made is if Naughty Dog came out and specifically same that Nathan was based on the rapper (which... no). --MASEM (t) 06:32, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

I think a joke made by two sources isn't really worth mentioning, haha. I don't think there is an actual allusion in place. People share names, that's just how it goes. ~Mable (chat) 08:54, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

It's a joke. Not a statement of fact. Remove it. - X201 (talk) 09:11, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

I also support removal. Just because something can be sourced, doesn't mean we need to include it. It's a trivial observation largely based around 2 unrelated things that have part of a name in common. Sergecross73 msg me 13:41, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

+1 czar 16:00, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

To do a little research myself: Uncharted: Drake's Fortune was released in 2007. Using Wikipedia as a source, Uncharted was in development "for about two years". The first "official mixtape" by Drake, Room for Improvement, was released in 2006, during Uncharted's development, which is well before the release of Drake's studio album Thank Me Later, in 2010. Maybe Room for Improvement did inspire Naughty Dog during the character design? What is also a possibility is that Naughty Dog are huge fans of the teen drama series Degrassi: The Next Generation, where Drake appeared in from 2001 till 2009, in 145 episodes. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 12:27, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

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Requested move 9 July 2020

Latest comment: 4 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

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The result of the move request was: Moved. Sceptre (talk) 13:19, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Nathan Drake (character) → Nathan Drake (Uncharted) – Per WP:NCVG#Disambiguation guidelines, it should be disambiguated with the name of the game that he features in. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 10:13, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Support per nomination. A glance at characters listed under categories covered by the parent Category:Fictional characters by genre confirms that the great majority of those needing disambiguation are disambiguated via the title from which those characters originated and the few characters that are not disambiguated in this manner should be. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 05:47, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

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