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Latest comment: 9 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

File:Domestic_flesh_of_croat_origin.jpg does not depict a far-right idea as far as I can see, it's just a trivial bit of economic patriotism. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 12:58, 3 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

I've also noticed a tendentious factual error in the picture description and removed it [1]. This is a WP:COMPETENCE issue at best. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 13:18, 3 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

The IPs insistence is blatantly tendentious. "Podrijetlo" and "porijeklo" are pretty much used interchangeably in Croatia, and although "meso" could mean "meat" as well as "flesh", nobody Croatian would mistake it for the latter in the given context. Also, "domaće" is not translated as "domestic" - this is a common example of a false pair. The actual meaning is "home-made". So the sign properly translated reads "Home made meat of Croatian [farm-grown] origin" (i.e. Croatian-grown meat) and has nothing to do with the topic of this article. Timbouctou (talk) 13:38, 3 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Latest comment: 9 years ago7 comments3 people in discussion

Charles Essie, could you explain why this article was moved from "Far right in Croatia" to "Far-right politics in Croatia"?[2] As far as I can tell, the move wasn't discussed; while being bold is fine, you gave no reason for the move either. The problem with the new title is that is unnecessarily narrows down the topic: e.g. "Graffiti", "Defacement of monuments", "Popular culture", "Sports" and "Wikipedia" (to name some of the prominent sections) aren't really politics, yet are absolutely relevant. GregorB (talk) 18:04, 10 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Oh, I'm sorry, Charles Essie (talk) 18:21, 10 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
Well, Charles, no harm done at any rate, and I'm sorry too if my complaint sounded a bit harsh. Would you generally agree with my point about the article's scope vs its title? Are there arguments in favor of the current title? GregorB (talk) 20:38, 10 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
Well, my thinking was that it matches other existing articles (such as Far-right politics). Charles Essie (talk) 20:43, 10 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
True, but some of the articles have since been renamed to "Far-right politics in Fooland" - so yes, it matches now, but the names were not always uniform. Frankly, I'm not sure what to do now: if the names are uniform at the moment and there are no complaints (other than mine), let's keep it. But I'd still say titles should be dictated by content, and content - in this particular case - is determined by the peculiarities of each country. In Croatia, I'd say that far-right politics per se is of fairly limited scope and power, but the far right in a general sense has significant impact. So, let's just make a note of this for the time being; if, on the other hand, anyone wants to be bold and move, they might as well do it as far as I'm concerned... GregorB (talk) 13:46, 12 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
No, I think you should be absolutely free to move it back yourself. This was not a previously-discussed move, so there can be no prejudice against moving it back. The title "Far right in Croatia" may not be perfectly consistent with others, but it is no less generally consistent with reality, recognizable, natural, concise and precise per WP:NC. Far right has always pointed to the same place as "far-right politics", and there isn't even a hatnote disambiguating the term now, so no readers should be confused by the difference. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 16:34, 12 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the input - I definitely feel free to move it, it's just that I don't feel like it at the moment... GregorB (talk) 17:33, 12 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
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Latest comment: 4 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

It looks like this article suffers from coatracking events and placing WP:UNDUE WEIGHT on genocide denial. The sections can be streamlined and better separated. For example the Post Political era sections is entirely about genocide denial. The article seems to need much work. Thoughts @WEBDuB:, @GregorB: and @Joy:? I ask you as you seem the last users involved. OyMosby (talk) 00:22, 19 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

I agree that the section about genocide denial is too extensive and coatrack.--WEBDuB (talk) 19:02, 22 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
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