Talk:Hispanos of New Mexico

Requested move 9 June 2015

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The result of the move request was: Moved. EdJohnston (talk) 21:27, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

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Neomexicano → Nuevomexicano – WP:COMMONNAME. "Nuevomexicano" is the vastly preferred spelling in sources [1][2], and is the actual endonym of this largely bilingual Spanish/English-speaking population. (It appears even more often as "Nuevo Mexicano" [3], but that usage is broader, including some things that are geographical not cultural/ethnic references.) "Neomexicano" appears far less often [4], and is a "Frankenstein" neologism, a tacking on of a Latin prefix to a Spanish root. It also is used to mean different things than the subject of this article, unrelated combinations of "new" and "Mexican", e.g. both in reference to modern Hispanic American culture outside New Mexico, and to things in Mexico, such as the Collegio Neomexicano, an institution in Monterrey, Nuevo León. "Novomexicano" is even rarer and virtually unknown in English [5]; it also seems to be Spain Spanish, not Mexican much less New Mexican Spanish, so is essentially a foreign exonym. After this, Category:Neomexicanos needs to move as well.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  09:47, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

• Support. "Nuevomexicano" is the WP:COMMONNAME as per Google Ngram. Khestwol (talk) 12:02, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
• Support per nom. GregKaye 16:32, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
• Support - Neomexicano is neither Spanish nor English. Red Slash 19:26, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

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Inappropriate focus on government

This is structured as if it were "History of the government of New Mexico". This is supposed to be an article on an ethno-cultural population, so it needs to be rewritten with such a focus. The google searches I linked to in the RM above, turn up plenty of useful sources for this.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  09:59, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 5 August 2015

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Jenks24 (talk) 14:11, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

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Nuevomexicano → Hispano – Nuevomexicano is more appropriate than Neomexicano, but it is far from the common name of this group. That would be Hispano or Hispanic (in English), not Nuevomexicano. I believe that this inaccuracy stems from the widening of the term Hispanic since the 1970 Census. This has led to a decline in the usage of Hispano, but it still far outstrips the usage of Nuevomexicano. In the definitive work compiling the dialect of New Mexican Spanish, Hispano is used frequently. Nuevomexicano appears as many times as Neomexicano: zero times. Plumber (talk) 19:48, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:PRECISE. There's no way people would expect Hispano to lead to an article on certain New Mexicans (and not, say, Cuban refugees in Florida, too). Red Slash 17:01, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose as per Red Slash, and the last RM discussion. Khestwol (talk) 17:09, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

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Error in notable list

Erinius, As much of an admirer of Adelina Ortero-Warren and other notable women like her, there is no reason why she should be listed twice as a notable person - she is listed under "O", and also under "W". I removed the duplication, but you added it back again which I believe is an error. Is there some reason for the duplication, or are there two Adelina O-W with the same birth year? Netherzone (talk) 14:19, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

The only reason I added it back is because I didn't notice her entry under "W", sorry lol. Erinius (talk) 05:02, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Introductory message to clarify the subject of article

Erinius I think the introductory message I included in the article is necessary to avoid confusions with Hispanics and Latinos of New Mexico. There were editors who introduced people of Mexican origin in the list of notables in this article (and by of way, Diego Sanchez is from a Mexican-American family. Hispanos in New Mexico do not consider themselves to be of Mexican origin, but feel more tied to their Spanish origin).--Isinbill (talk) 15:08, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

"Hispanos" nominated for deletion

Letting everyone know, I nominated a related article, Hispanos, for deletion, and I'm waiting for feedback. AFD discussion here. Erinius (talk) 09:03, 10 April 2023 (UTC)