Talk:Nigel Coan

Putting the notability question in play

As happy as I've been to start this page and make it into a stub worth including on Wikipedia, I'm well aware that others may not find Coan notable enough. I welcome any input that more experienced editors may have and will defer to their judgment. Vannav (talk) 08:05, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi. His notability isn't terrific but I think it can work. It would be really great if one of the shows he works on won an award or if he got some recognition outside of the usual newspaper articles. Beach drifter (talk) 19:02, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Per WP:NOTABILITY a subject meets the notability requirement if it has "significant coverage in reliable sources.": "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article or stand-alone list. "Reliable" means sources need editorial integrity to allow verifiable evaluation of notability, per the reliable source guideline. Sources may encompass published works in all forms and media, and in any language. Availability of secondary sources covering the subject is a good test for notability. "Sources",[2] for notability purposes, should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability. The number and nature of reliable sources needed varies depending on the depth of coverage and quality of the sources." I am not sure this subject meets the policy criteria based on the cited references. Two of the five references are The Velvet Onion, which appears to be a blog, which might not be considered reliable per the subsection of WP:NOTABILITY entitled WP:NEWSBLOG, which states: "Anyone can create a personal web page or pay to have a book published, then claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason, self-published media, such as books, patents, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, personal or group blogs, Internet forum postings, and tweets, are largely not acceptable as sources." One listed source is The Observer. Even if this is considered a reliable source (I am not certain about it), from my reading, the Observer article is about Noel Fielding, not Nigel Coan. This reference might not help to support the "significant coverage" criteria, which states: "Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail, so no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material.[1]" One reference is the "Not to Scale Director Page.: I am not sure what this is but it does not appear to be a reliable secondary source. And the fifth reference is one of the episodes of Noel Fielding's Luxury Comedy. Taking these references together does not appear to me to amount to "significant coverage in reliable sources," but I am open to being educated on these sources if I am not correct.Coaster92 (talk) 00:42, 30 January 2012 (UTC)