Talk:North Point Park (Massachusetts)
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Parks?
editA sentence in the opening paragraph begins, "Just upstream of these three new parks..." What three parks?--or I should say, what other two parks, if presumably North Point Park is one of the three. STarry (talk) 23:11, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
- STarry, The article now says, "(North Point Park, Paul Revere Park, and Nashua Street Park)", so I assume your concern has been addressed. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:34, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
Location
editUser:TomG2002 updated the article suggesting the park is mostly located in Boston, per OpenStreetMap. Google Maps suggests the park is located in Cambridge. Thoughts? ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:04, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Ahecht and Beland: Pinging you as previous article contributors. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:05, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
- Even according to Open Street Map, a majority of the park is in Cambridge (the park is more than just the islands). OSM does show slightly less of the park being in Cambridge compared to the offical city maps, but in any case OSM doesn't count as a reliable source since it is UGC. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:14, 17 December 2019 (UTC)- The official city map is quite reliable, and jives with what I know of the history. I updated the article with an explanation. Fun fact: the Charlestown-Cambridge border is partly defined by the Millers River, but most of it was filled in maybe a hundred years ago, and no one remembers where it was. This was not a problem when it was an industrially polluted wasteland, but it became important when the luxury condos went up after the Big Dig. 8) -- Beland (talk)
- @Ahecht and Beland: So there's agreement the park spans Boston and Cambridge? If so, does this mean the North Bank Bridge lies entirely within Boston? Some Cambridge-related categories may need to be removed from the bridge article, then. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:10, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- No, the portion of the park that is in Boston is the southern portion, the North Bank Bridge connects to the northeast corner of the park. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:26, 18 December 2019 (UTC)- Ahecht is correct; according to the official Cambridge Assessor's map linked above, the bridge goes from Cambridge to Charlestown, Boston. -- Beland (talk) 23:14, 18 December 2019 (UTC) Oh, this is the one I mean: [1] though they both show the same thing. -- Beland (talk) 23:29, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- No, the portion of the park that is in Boston is the southern portion, the North Bank Bridge connects to the northeast corner of the park. --Ahecht (TALK
- @Ahecht and Beland: So there's agreement the park spans Boston and Cambridge? If so, does this mean the North Bank Bridge lies entirely within Boston? Some Cambridge-related categories may need to be removed from the bridge article, then. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:10, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- The official city map is quite reliable, and jives with what I know of the history. I updated the article with an explanation. Fun fact: the Charlestown-Cambridge border is partly defined by the Millers River, but most of it was filled in maybe a hundred years ago, and no one remembers where it was. This was not a problem when it was an industrially polluted wasteland, but it became important when the luxury condos went up after the Big Dig. 8) -- Beland (talk)
- Even according to Open Street Map, a majority of the park is in Cambridge (the park is more than just the islands). OSM does show slightly less of the park being in Cambridge compared to the offical city maps, but in any case OSM doesn't count as a reliable source since it is UGC. --Ahecht (TALK
Page title
editIf the park spans Boston and Cambridge, should we move the page to North Point Park (Massachusetts) to avoid mention of just one of these cities? ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:11, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- According to the map in the above section, and some pixel-counting magic, the park is almost exactly 2/3 (66.7%) in Cambridge and 1/3 (33.3%) in Boston. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:28, 18 December 2019 (UTC)- Ahecht, IMO, the page should be moved because the park is not solely within Cambridge. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:30, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
Requested move 18 December 2019
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved (closed by non-admin page mover) DannyS712 (talk) 19:36, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
North Point Park (Cambridge, Massachusetts) → North Point Park (Massachusetts) – The park spans Boston and Cambridge. Clearly more of the park lies within the boundaries of Cambridge, but I think using "Cambridge" for disambiguation purposes is inaccurate and inappropriate when the park also stretches into Boston. I propose replacing "Cambridge, Massachusetts" with "Massachusetts". --Another Believer (Talk) 18:40, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- Makes sense to me, even if locals think of it as being in Cambridge because it's on the notionally Cambridge side of the river. -- Beland (talk) 23:14, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- Agree with moving to North Point Park (Massachusetts) since it covers both municipalities. —METS501 (talk) 15:29, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Categories
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ResolvedCurrently, the article has the following categories:
- Category:2007 establishments in Massachusetts
- Category:Geography of Cambridge, Massachusetts
- Category:Parks in Middlesex County, Massachusetts
- Category:Tourist attractions in Cambridge, Massachusetts
Since this park also stretches into Boston, I propose adding:
Agreed? ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:13, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- It feels a bit weird given it does not align with local intuition, but it's a weird situation and stumbling across the categorization might spark some curiosity. It's technically correct and is explained in the article intro, so I have no objection. -- Beland (talk) 23:16, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- Beland, Thanks. @Ahecht: Care to offer a third opinion here? ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:18, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
- Sounds find to me. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:34, 23 December 2019 (UTC)- Ahecht, Thanks.
Done ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:30, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
- Ahecht, Thanks.
- Sounds find to me. --Ahecht (TALK
- Beland, Thanks. @Ahecht: Care to offer a third opinion here? ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:18, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
