Talk:Grumman E-2 Hawkeye

Requested move 23 May 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 11:57, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

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Northrop Grumman E-2 Hawkeye → Grumman E-2 Hawkeye – (edited from:Grumman E-2) – Why does Northrop Grumman, a corporation formed in 1994, get credit for an aircraft that first flew in 1960? Rename per WP:AIR/NC. Jane's All the World's Aircraft 1992–93 Schierbecker (talk) 01:25, 23 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 08:59, 30 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 11:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose: The "Hawkeye" name should stay in the title, in line with similar aircraft like the Boeing E-3 Sentry and E-7 Wedgetail. GarethBaloney (talk) 20:56, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

I didn't mean to remove the Hawkeye moniker, User talk:GarethBaloney. Schierbecker (talk) 21:03, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

In that case, rename to Grumman E-2 Hawkeye. It fits in with all the other pre-1994 Grumman aircraft aside from the EA-6B Prowler, for some reason. GarethBaloney (talk) 21:42, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Also Northrop Grumman E-8 Joint STARS, both of which I have recently proposed to rename. Schierbecker (talk) 21:54, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Military history and WikiProject Aviation have been notified of this discussion. Schierbecker (talk) 22:03, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

I struck the oppose above to make it clearer that GarethBaloney changed their preference, hope that's okay. ASUKITE 14:49, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Tried to fix move to calm RMCD bot. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 01:09, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Oppose - Per WP:AIR/NC, "If the type has been produced by different companies or different company names then consensus should be reached on a case-by-case basis on which to use." The Jane's source you provided above is from the year before the Northrop Grumman merger, so of course it will not refer to it by its current manufacturer. Most sources today refer to the aircraft as a Northrop Grumman product, and therefore WP:COMMONNAME applies. - ZLEA _T\^C 03:40, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Jane's probably wasn't the best example to use. Though for the record, later editions of Jane's post merger call it the "Northrop Grumman E-2 Hawkeye". Jane's tends to use whatever the current prime contractor's name is for organization. It's worth noting that the B-2 Spirit page was moved to Northrop B-2 Spirit following a brief discussion on the page. It would be nice if we were consistent. Schierbecker (talk) 04:22, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

For the record, I would have opposed the B-2 Spirit move for the same reason had there been a formal move request. - ZLEA _T\^C 14:30, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

• Support This is the general article, not the Northrop Grumman E-2D only article -- 65.92.244.143 (talk) 23:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Military history, WikiProject Aviation, and WikiProject Aircraft have been notified of this discussion. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 11:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.