Talk:Olympiacos CFP (men's water polo)

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"If you revert, at least give a reason"

• Colors: Take a look at: Maccabi Tel Aviv B.C., Real Madrid Baloncesto, Fenerbahçe Men's Basketball, PBC CSKA Moscow, FC Barcelona Bàsquet (just to list some of them). We can use the color box and write the color name at the same time.

• You changed the text from "is the men's water polo team of the major Greek multi-sport club Olympiacos CFP" to the incoherent and meaningless "is the men's water polo team of the major Greek s Olympiacos CFP,". Do I really need to explain this?

• Links to other wikipedia articles (Europe). What's the matter there?

• You changed the phrase "From 2006–07 through 2015–16 season" and you made it "From 2006 to 2007 through 2015–16 season" which makes no sense. 2006–07 and 2015–16 are sport seasons.

• If there is a guideline that prevents us from linking to year pages (1927) let me know and I'll revert it.

With all due respect Tony1, I don't think we should spend more time on self-evident, obvious things like those. By the way, I wish you Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Take care. Gtrbolivar (talk) 23:25, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

You are combative and rude.

First, we don't put color decorations in infoboxes unless there's a particular value-add. There isn't one in simply shoving in squares filled with red and white.

"Do I really need to explain this?" No you don't. It's a fault with the script which we'll see to fixing. You achieve nothing with your sarcasm but to piss off other editors.

No, we don't link to widely known geographical/political entities. Go read the guidelines.

Yes, there IS a guideline against useless linking of years, dates, and other chronological items. You shouldn't be editing en.WP without having acquainted yourself with basic guidelines.

"With all due respect"—don't be sarcastic. And I don't wish you your christian commercial celebration. Tony (talk) 13:08, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Answer

• There is a paticular value-add, see: Maccabi Tel Aviv B.C., Real Madrid Baloncesto, Fenerbahçe Men's Basketball, PBC CSKA Moscow, FC Barcelona Bàsquet. So I disagree.
• You didn't check the changes you made, you left the article with an incoherent phrase, you reverted the version in which I corrected your "fault", and in the end you insulted me because I believed that an explanation to such an obvious thing is not necessary. Next time check your editing before asking for an explanation from the editor who fixed your "faults". You are the one pissing off editors with your oversights and your arrogance.
• "Greek" and "multi-sport" should have links in my opinion. Go read the countless sports-club articles in wikipedia and maybe you'll understand why.
• If you hate religion or you're some kind of anti-religion zealot you should expound your personal philosophy by writing a book. Don't lash out against unknown wikipedia editors. To tell you the truth, I'm not a particularly religious man, I just had the common decency to wish you a happy new year as billions of people do these days all around the world, regardless of whether they are religious or not. Your answer "I don't wish you your christian commercial celebration" is just out of line and utterly disgusting.
• Your rudness, combativeness, arrogance and lack of grace is unmatched by anyone I've ever encountered in wikipedia. Gtrbolivar (talk) 20:26, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
  • This is going to end badly—for you. I will take action elsewhere if you persist. " Maccabi Tel Aviv B.C., Real Madrid Baloncesto, Fenerbahçe Men's Basketball, PBC CSKA Moscow, FC Barcelona Bàsquet"—all entirely appropriate links. Specific and useful to readers in the context. Go back to the huge 2009 RfC where the en.WP community decided against the linking of chronological items (except in explicitly chronological articles, like "1998"). Your "multi-sport" links merely to "sports club". We do not link common, gneeral terms, unless there's some particular justification for doing so in the context. So we do not link to "country" in an article on a country, for example. These are what are known as "dictionary terms". And WP "is not a dictionary". Go take a look at WP:MOSLINK. Your opinion (nor mine) counts for nought, in this respect. "Don't lash out against unknown wikipedia editors."—You're the insulter—assuming that I'm a christian. Don't. Keep your greetings non-ideological. Now, I'm tiring of this. I will revert again if you revert. Then it becomes a legal issue. Tony (talk) 01:49, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
    • "This is going to end badly for you. I will take action elsewhere if you persist.", "You're the insulter-assuming that I'm a christian", "Then it becomes a legal issue". This looks like you're threatening me. I am reporting you to the administrators immediately. Gtrbolivar (talk) 02:25, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
• note, the meaning of "legal issue" was clarified by Tony1 in this diff :"Legal issue" meaning I'll take him to ANI, you idiot. Jytdog (talk) 21:54, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

I see absolutely no reason to pipe a link to [[sports club|multi-sports club]]. There is zero value added in that link as the vast majority of readers will know what a sports club is; piping to multi-sports club violates WP:EGG, in my view. To say that such links exist across wikipedia is saying nothing more than WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. I would however apologise the glitch in the script that caused the spurious removal of the text. That glitch has now been corrected. By the same token, the colour boxes also serve little purpose except to speckle articles with splodges of colour. Who doesn't know the colour red and the colour white? -- Ohc ^¡digame! 16:31, 28 December 2017 (UTC)