Talk:Soviet invasion of Manchuria
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editSoviet Denunciation of the Pact with Japan on 13 April 1945
editThe article currently states "In late June, they approached the Soviets (the Neutrality Pact was still in place), inviting them to negotiate peace with the Western Allies in support of Japan, providing them with specific proposals and in return they offered the Soviets very attractive territorial concessions."
Yet the primary source "Soviet Denunciation of the Pact with Japan" (Avalon Project website, Yale University) states that "On the strength of the above and in accordance with Article Three of the above mentioned pact, which envisaged the right of denunciation one year before the lapse of the five year period of operation of the pact, the Soviet Government hereby makes know to the Government of Japan its wish to denounce the pact of April 13, 1941.'" which means that Molotov had told the Japanese that as far as the Soviet Union was concerned the treaty provisions ended on 13 April 1945. So where is the source that "the Neutrality Pact was still in place" in late June 1945? -- PBS (talk) 23:13, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
Best idea for this Article
editFor a more quality suggested graphics of this English Wikipedia for this Article. The title name should be: Russians Libreation of Manchuria not (invasion) because the World War 2 the types of War allies fighting the bad facism evil axis side. So Japan was on Facism Axis sides: Germany, Italy, Japan( The Axis on World War 2) + Government Axis Puppets. The title name should be more suggested best idea I create it out the name. THE NEWS SERVICE IEOS UPDATES (talk) 13:14, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
The Recent Updates for everyone : I was moving to a new style of the accounts because this account I have performed talk before so I realized my password was forgetten in this account so I create new one. THE NEWS SERVICE IOES UPDATES (talk) 11:15, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
Bruce Cummings cited inaccurately in "War Crimes"
editBruce Cummings is cited once to claim that "Soviet soldiers also committed rape against both Japanese and Korean women alike in the northern half of the Korean peninsula."
However, the rest of the cited work completely contradicts many other claims in the "War Crimes" section. Firstly, he claims that "many Koreans participated in the looting of Japanese colonials and Korean 'capitalists'" which goes against the section's portrayal of a monolithic occupier and victim country without attention to class and other intra-society nuances.
Cummings also says that the carrying off of industry in Korea was "widely believed" but had "no evidence," noting that only "a few removals" happened and cites the Pauley Commission. I think if Wikipedia's going to cite the most reputable scholar in this section as it pertains to Korea, it should accurately represent his full view.
Bruce Cummings, "The North Wind," in The Origins of the Korean War: Liberation and the Emergence of Separate Regimes, 388-389
Lastly and applicable to the entire section, the sourcing is quite outdated. It seems like someone favoured a biased quantity-over-quality approach with mostly pre-1991 scholarship, short encyclopedia entries, and the Christian Science Monitor. In my opinion the section should be rewritten. Deorientalist (talk) 16:12, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Possible typo
edit"however, the Japanese honored their agreement with Chiang Kai-shek by not entering China proper."
Should this instead read "however, the Soviets..."? 2A01:4B00:883D:4E00:98BE:83A0:2345:C925 (talk) 23:19, 11 August 2023 (UTC)