Talk:Russian invasion of Ukraine order of battle

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Latest comment: 8 months ago by 2001:1AE9:10A6:F500:B40F:76AC:96F:4A62 in topic Ukraine structure


Azov Battalion Source

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The source for the Azov battalion being deployed (https://ent.siteintelgroup.com/Far-Right-/-Far-Left-Threat/white-nationalists-recruit-to-fight-for-azov-battalion-in-ukraine.html)is from a source who's own page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SITE_Intelligence_Group) says it is not available to the general public. Is there anything else that is that may say the same thing?

Russian command

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The article reads: "Commanders of the various armed services and MoD units do not have operational control over the forces."

1. Isn't it a mistake when, for example, the command of the Russian Air Force directly controls the Russian Strategic Air Force and, according to Wikipedia, the individual air armies are directly subordinated to the command of the Air Force? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Air_Force#/media/File:Russian_Air_Force.png

1. Could someone correct in the article, here the headquarters of the individual forces are subordinate to the Russian General Staff or the Ministry of Defense?

3. Could the article edit what role the National Defense Command Center of Russia plays? According to this article: https://www.rbth.com/defence/2016/01/04/russias-military-command-center-sending-orders-from-the-heart-of-moscow_555889

is tasked with "Coordinating the forces involved, planning operations and allocating the resources needed for a decisive victory is carried out by the new National Defense Control Center (NDCC)" But isn't that the role of the Russian Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff?

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4. Do I understand correctly that the NDCC is supposed to receive messages from military circles and relay to them the orders of the Russian Chief of General Staff over the phone? 90.176.192.8 (talk) 14:11, 28 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Read my previous answers!! The NDMC is a part of the Main Operations Directorate!! Buckshot06 (talk) 21:36, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Four separate directions

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"In the first months following the invasion, Western and Ukrainian intelligence agencies and analysts were unable to identify a single overall commander of the Russian forces in Ukraine. Instead, it was believed that separate formations were drawn from each of Russia’s four military districts and placed under the command of senior officers from each district, with Putin taking on an oversized role, sometimes reportedly giving orders to field formations." https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/09/29/how-putins-coup-proofing-measures-have-undermined-russias-war-effort-in-ukraine/ Buckshot06 (talk) 05:18, 8 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Ukraine structure

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1. Could someone edit the article to match the Ukrainian High Command exchange? 2. isn't it wrong that, for example, operational headquarters Tavria and the Russian group of forces Dnieper are not recorded within the structure of the Ukrainian army? 2001:1AE9:10A6:F500:B40F:76AC:96F:4A62 (talk) 21:15, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply