Talk:Zynga

Discontinued game removed

could somebody check why this title or article in this wikipedia had been removed i will add this in but need to be edited again .

--Firegold3 (talk) 07:04, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

IPO

Hi there--I just added a link to Zynga's Funding section. The article talks about Zynga's candidacy for an IPO by 2013. I'm not sure which section it belongs in, but it's a good article. Any suggestions? --Magentabanana (talk) 05:26, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

critisms

"Another source of criticism is non-players who grow tired of seeing updates about their friends' social gaming activity. Facebook groups created to express displeasure regarding overexposure of Zynga's games attracted millions of members."

Should this be switch to a past-tense or removed, since facebook allows you to block updates from applications, rendering this a non-issue? Vinithehat (talk) 06:13, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Sadly, since many fb users do not know how to do so, and that it is an opt-out, rather than an opt-in setting, I would say that it should remain included in the article though tense adjusted as needed. — MrDolomite • Talk 17:15, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

On every Request of any game there is the button to block the application. Also this is more a FB Problem then a Zynga Problem. --95.88.233.19 (talk) 19:15, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Also, the criticism continues whether or not there are technical means to get around it, even whether or not the criticism is valid. Anyway, criticism of the "I'm sick and tired of all my friends playing too much Farmville" sort is likely to continue no matter what happens. Comedians have discovered it as a good joke, and there will always be haters in the world whenever anything is too popular. That probably goes without saying, and shouldn't even be mentioned, for most online activities and sites. Name any game and there is somebody out there who doesn't like it. What makes this different is that there are so many groups and public grousing over this, to the point where major media like CNN cover it as a criticism of Zynga. - Wikidemon (talk) 17:56, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't think this is an issue anymore given Facebook only allows those who have an app installed to see notifications from users of that app {Wajj11 (talk) 00:02, 10 March 2011 (UTC)} I am upset I cant get in to scrabble with friends people are waiting for me but I cant get it back I will wait until you are able to fix what ever it is is wrong Lynda Kouri 1/17/2013 Thankyou lyndarkouri@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.247.204.24 (talk) 05:50, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit request from Jfrodo, 4 April 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} In the business case section please add:

In March 2010 Zynga started selling prepaid cards for virtual currency at more than 12,800 stores across the US.

Source: http://www.insidesocialgames.com/2010/03/25/zyngas-pre-paid-virtual-currency-cards-have-expanded-to-more-than-12800-us-stores/

Jfrodo (talk) 14:59, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

 Done ^Avicenna_sis @ 02:35, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Zynga Facebook template needs updated

At some point after the last time this template was last updated, Cafe World was nominated for article deletion and Cafe World lost, resulted in being replaced with a redirect to Zynga. What needs to happen is for the circular link in the template to be removed, instead of people adding new circular links in this main article. I'd do the later myself, except I'm not sure how to get to templates in edit mode. Jon (talk) 18:11, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I took out the bluelink for Cafe World for you. I hope this helps, if not please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. ThemFromSpace 18:30, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

For a bigger project it could be recreated in viable form with some content and references. It's probably notable (one of the largest online games ever, and various reliable sources)[1] but I question whether Wikipedia really needs a separate article about every single large casual social game from Zynga. Taking a note from other lists (e.g. list of car or phone models, list of characters from a work of fiction, etc), a better idea for organizing this would be:

1. add a (sourced) sentence or two about every important Zynga game to this article (or spin that off into a separate "list of..." article)
2. Include a {{main}} template for those important enough to have their own article; for the others, just leave it
3. Add a heading for "other zynga games", and a simple list in paragraph format, for the ones that aren't important or that we haven't got content for yet - no need for bullet points or redlinks, but we should have a source for every game name even if that's only the Zynga site. Otherwise we risk inaccurate information, vandalism, etc.
4. The template can list the games that have their own article, and then an "other" section can link to the subsection here that lists all the games

Hope that helps, - Wikidemon (talk) 19:48, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion to include facts, not rumors

while up to date information is important, misinformation is a lot worse than lack of information. for example, this information was taken from an internet tabloid and none of the parties mentioned in it have confirmed it as fact:

On 7 May 2010, Michael Arrington of TechCrunch reported that Zynga was planning to leave Facebook altogether in the wake of Facebook's requiring exclusive use of Facebook credits for monetization in applications.[10] After Facebook negotiations for having Zynga host its games solely on Facebook fell through, Facebook retaliated by shutting off notifications for several Zynga games, including FarmVille.[10] Plans surfaced for Zynga to completely leave Facebook and to create a new "Zynga Live" network.[10] A public blog post revealed the planned creation of a new network called Zlive.[11]

this is an encyclopedia, we should provide facts, not unconfirmed rumors. this is not the place to discuss current events, if Zynga starts their own site and leaves facebook, then it would be a fact and something that should be recorded in an encyclopedia, until then it is a rumor and belongs on blogs and chat rooms.

That is a really good point! Goalloverhere (talk) 01:39, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

next, as far as I can tell this has never been confirmed either, the source for this information is a forum post where no one official from any of the parties mentioned confirms it as fact:

In September 2009 Zynga was threatened with legal action by Nissan for alleged use of their trademarks in the game Street Racing. Zynga subsequently renamed and changed the thumbnail images of all cars that were branded Nissan and Infiniti to "Sindats" and "Fujis" with the thumbnails changed.[31] At the time they also renamed and redesigned automobiles depicted as being made by GM, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Saab, and others.

the most important part of an encyclopedia is accuracy, keeping information up to date is also important, but not at the cost of accuracy. and please keep it neutral, this is not the place to express your opinions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AccuracyCounts222 (talk • contribs) 07:52, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

1. The article referenced is clearly an article of fact. TechCrunch is a reliable source.
2. Factuality is not the basis for whether content is encyclopedic. Otherwise, articles such as Santa Claus and Zeus would have to be deleted. WP:RS is the relevant criterion, and the rumors certainly can be encyclopedic.
3. While Wikipedia is WP:NOT news, current events can be included in encyclopedia articles. Since Zynga has unquestioned notability, the most relevant factor for inclusion is WP:RS.
4. I did not add the Street Racing comment, so I cannot say anything about that.
5. One thing we really need to do though is merge the controversies section with the main article, as this have some point-of-view problems. RJaguar3 | u | t 08:34, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

you say it's a reliable source, I say it's an internet tabloid, see how easily what we write can be influenced by our opinions? I came across this article in a facebook group that tries to pass it off as a fact, well as you just stated information found on this entire site does not need to be factual. what is the point of collecting information and storing it in a knowledge archive if we do not care for accuracy? there are plenty of news sites, this isn't one of them; this is an encyclopedia, and it's quite evident that a growing number of people have come to rely on this site for information. all I ask is if you won't bother checking what you post for accuracy post it somewhere else, create a blog, start a site of your own, contribute to a news site, there are plenty of options out there, but please don't add unconfirmed rumors to an encyclopedia; otherwise this entire site loses credibility. -AccuracyCounts222 —Preceding unsigned comment added by AccuracyCounts222 (talk • contribs) 09:09, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. In general, Techcruch articles fit the definition of reliable sources, so they meet that threshold for inclusion. The collection and storage of information is filtered through inclusion criteria and the judgment of editors. An encyclopedia is considered a "tertiary source", which relies on compiling reliable "secondary sources". Where our sources are scant or erroneous, we can propagate those inaccuracies. There isn't any better approach available than reviewing and processing the sources. Improving articles is done through a collaborative process where we question and challenge things. A single editor complaining that an article is incorrect doesn't really fit that model, because another editor will say that it is correct. Things are incremental. Despite the fact that this is a Web 2.0 site, Internet startups like Zynga get relatively little attention from editors here so they have not been cleaned up as much as others. Anyway, an article talk page like this isn't the best place to discuss the whole theory of why this works. If you spot specific areas where an article can be improved, feel free to either discuss them or just do it. - Wikidemon (talk) 10:00, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Given that one week later, this rumor was specifically dispelled by an actual agreement by Facebook and Zynga establishing a 5 year relationship, the relevance of the rumor for the on-going article is highly diminished, and its likelihood of being purely speculative is heightened. I have therefore removed the Arrington article again, and replaced it with the summary agreement between Facebook and Zynga. Wajj11 (talk) 00:08, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Removal of DST acquisition sourced by WSJ article

Reliable sources do not exclude those that cannot be found online readily (see WP:OFFLINE). The Wall Street Journal is a reliable source. Also, I'm sure someone can check the December 16/17 Wall Street Journal to find the article in print. Or we can just wait for the Internet Archive to release their copy next month. In summary, the section should not be removed on the basis that it is not verifiable. RJaguar3 | u | t 02:55, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: Here come some more reliable sources about the acquisition: [2] [3] [4] RJaguar3 | u | t 03:00, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Formerly "see also"

"zynga.org has raised more than $2 million for haiti and $3 million for broader charities through the same of social virtual goods whereby 50% of the proceeds go to the named cause."

I could not find anything supporting this, but I'm leaving it here (unedited) just in case. Also, this doesn't belong in a "See Also" section. Tomi Undergallows (talk) 16:26, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Zinga was an American bulldog

Looking through some sources, I found that Fortune reported in December 2009 that Pincus's dog was an American bulldog. [5] RJaguar3 | u | t 03:37, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

FarmVillains

An article someone might want to incorporate quotes from [6] -- Limulus (talk) 05:16, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Already done for you. Feel free to add other stuff, though. RJaguar3 | u | t 05:34, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

I think those particular edits are good ones and hit the mark. However, the SF Weekly piece, as with much of its parent Village Voice Media company's content, is only a semi-reliable source. As a free weekly paper, albeit a well-established one, they give their contributing writers a lot of room to roam, and get mileage out of portraying everything is a scandal, conspiracy, travesty, etc. To their credit the facts seem to be pretty solid in this story as far as they go and they are honest in their depiction of the facts: Zynga copies other companies' games, they do so intentionally and unapologetically, and industry observers speculate that these fast knock-off games are not going to have a long shelf life nor can they give the company staying power. But then they work editorial commentary into the article, masked as news reporting, for example flat out stating in the article text that producing derivative games is a "theft of ideas" or that this is an "ethical liability". We ought to be very careful with this as a source, and I would not credit the article's author or all of the sources in the article as being authoritative enough to be reliable even as to a noteworthy opinion. - Wikidemon (talk) 06:13, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

FrontierVille and Zynga privacy policy

This new addition to the article smacks of original research. Does anyone have a reliable source synthesizing Frontierville's data collection policy and Zynga's privacy policy? RJaguar3 | u | t 03:01, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Donations?

This article has a strong negative vibe. How about lightening it bu telling us how much they've donated to causes, like the Save the Children charity for the Japanese earthquake/tsunami/radiation disaster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.123.254 (talk) 23:45, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

This article has a strong negative vibe because it's about a greedy unethical company. Stultitiam debello (talk) 18:51, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

... And no donation - no matter how high or to whom - can disguise over the fact that Zynga is a greedy unethical company. sys2074 (talk) 17:00, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Regarding this WSJ article about the 70% drop, does anyone have a WP:RS source that says this is an instance of the maxim that mistreating your software developers does not pay in the long term? That would be good to have if a WP:RS source can be found. History2007 (talk) 20:24, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Founders

I would like to edit the founders to reflect the accurate list, which is Mark Pincus, Scott Sale, Kyle Stewart and John Doerr. Would another editor mind weighing in or making this change? If no objections are had and no edits are made within four days, I will go ahead and update the entry myself. NinaSpezz (talk) 16:18, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

• Took edits live. NinaSpezz (talk) 22:04, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

You are incorrect. John Doerr is a Venture Capitalist at KPCB, a VC that funded zynga long after it was founded. Scott Dale and Kyle Stewart were not founders. You may be confusing zynga with one of Mark Pincus's previous companies, Support Soft where Scott Dale was a founder and VP of Engineering. There are thousands of sources online confirming that the accurate list is Mark Pincus, Eric Schiermeyer, Justin Waldron, Michael Luxton, and Steve Schoettler. Someone should change this back to the accurate list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.176.205.99 (talk) 13:39, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

This is a good place to get a discussion going to resolve the issue. Earlier today I reverted this edit by 208.176.205.99 because without an edit summary it looked to be just one of the vandalisms we get here all day long. Please continue the discussion. --CliffC (talk) 13:57, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Error in creent stock price

the article states that the stock clsed at some price on August 13, 2012. Today is August 11, 2012. Unless you're clairvoyant, or a nefarious a tor plotting to drive down Zyngas stock price, this is an error. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.201.146 (talk) 14:26, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

The edit was simply vandalism.--S. Rich (talk) 16:16, 11 August 2012 (UTC)17:43, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Here is another of Truthbetold's edits: [7] . --S. Rich (talk) 02:01, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Trends after 2008 and downfall

Here's a good article from TechCrunch that explains the trends after 2008 and why Zynga failed/is failing at gaining more users, and why its share price has dropped. Hopefully we can use it to expand the article beyond list-type sentence structure? - M0rphzone (talk) 07:37, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Can't load Frontierville

I have not been able to load Frontierville for 3 days, all I get is a white page. I can play all the other games. Can you help me Please get back to playing? Thank You Barbara Petrulli

Hi! This is a talk page for our article on Zynga, not a forum for general discussion of Zynga. It will probably be more helpful for you to contact Zynga support directly (you can use the following link [8]). I hope this helps, RJaguar3 | u | t 02:06, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

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List of Games

As I browsed throughout the page, I noticed the section about apps that are still available does not feature that much information; just a numbered list and a few links. I'd personally recommend more information about when the games were launched, brief information, and for the disbanded games, the date the game was cancelled/pulled from the public.

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Neutrality of "Corporate Culture" Section

The "Corporate Culture" section does not seem to be written in neutral PoV to me. I am not sure what the right way is to flag, so mentioning it here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.23.239.50 (talk) 23:11, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

I second that. Not sure how it looked back in 2018, but right now it just reads like an ad.

Full acquisition of Peak Games

Zynga acquires Turkey’s Peak Games for $1.8bn https://www.ft.com/content/3c42eeb0-8b0f-4659-9eea-9cd11b4ac452 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.112.177.218 (talk) 16:11, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Questions

One of my opponents played VU, and another one played EE. Both were acceptable. But I tried to do it in the SAME GAME, but it was not accepted. How can that be? Secondly, if you have no definition for a word, why is it acceptable? 100.16.225.129 (talk) 16:29, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Mountain Goat Mountain Missing

The ios moble game “Mountain Goat Mountain” released in 2015 is no where even mentioned. 209.51.92.45 (talk) 20:24, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Game of Thrones Slots Section Problems

I am not a Wikipedia editor, but the “Game of Thrones Slots” section under “Data Breaches” seems strange to me. There are various formatting and editing errors, and dubious claims with no sources (“many [players] having spent more than $50,000-$100,000 by themselves”). I thought it might be worthwhile to point out, as I don’t run into issues as apparent as these on Wikipedia very often. 162.242.4.110 (talk) 17:15, 5 July 2022 (UTC)