Talk:Playboy lifestyle

Book

Linked in a book review of Shawn Valentino's Showstopper Lifestyle. There is an extensive review of the Playboy Philosophy as propounded by Hefner in this book. Dr.apricot (talk) 21:04, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

History - links

The links seem to place a lot of reliance on one book - plus a link in German that does not work. Surely there must be some more things we can use ? -- Beardo (talk) 22:19, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 1 March 2018

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The result of the move request was: Move. We have a general agreement that the proposed WP:NATURAL title. Adjustments to the article content can continue. Cúchullain ^t/c 13:59, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

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Playboy (lifestyle) → Playboy lifestyle – Per WP:NATURAL this title makes more sense, as the words are often used together (for example, "he lived a playboy lifestyle"). _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 19:51, 1 March 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. Dekimasuよ! 17:45, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Support to have a more natural title. --Frmorrison (talk) 20:46, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

• Support Current title suggests it is referring to a single person. Shadow007 (talk) 23:55, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
• tentative Oppose - the current article doesn't really spell out what this "lifestyle" is. The article is basically a WP:DICTDEF in the lead, with an etymology of sorts in the first section, then a list of names in the next section. I'm not sure that either "Playboy (lifestyle)" or "Playboy lifestyle" reflects the current content well. It currently is describing what/who a playboy is, not what the lifestyle is, if that makes sense. --Netoholic @ 02:15, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

• I agree that the proposed title is far more natural, but as User:Netoholic points out, the topic of the article seems to be playboys themselves and not merely their lifestyle. —  AjaxSmack  00:56, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
• Relisting comment. I have been asked to reopen and relist this request, so I have done so. However, the later comments pointed out that the proposed change to the title would also involve changing the article's scope. If the move is to go through, it should also establish a consensus for the scope change. Dekimasuよ! 17:45, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
  • @Dekimasu:I don't agree that the scope would be adjusted. Playboy (lifestyle) and Playboy lifestyle mean the exact same thing, and the article is quite clearly about the lifestyle. The only time "playboy" referred to a person was in the 18th century and takes up a small part of the article._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 19:11, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
  • I agree with ZXCVBNM - the opening sentence says "A playboy is the lifestyle of a wealthy man..." It is already about the lifestyle so the change actually properly reflects rather than changes the scope. Shadow007 (talk) 22:19, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
    • The opening sentence is poorly constructed, then, since "a playboy" is not itself "a lifestyle," but rather "a man (with a lifestyle)." I think the opening might also be a copyvio of one of the Oxford dictionaries tempered by bad paraphrasing, so I'd suggest rewriting it. Dekimasuよ! 03:05, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
• Support, per above, and more natural. As zxcvbnm says above, the language means the same thing. It's about the lifestyle of a perceived Playboy. Randy Kryn (talk) 20:12, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

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