Talk:Václav Havel Airport Prague

Name of the Prague Airport

Shouldn't the article's name (according to CAA and Google) be rather Prague International Airport or Prague-Ruzyne Airport? Qertis 13:14, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Whatever googles higher probably. Burgundavia 13:52, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)
• I guess Prague-Ruzyne Airport is the good way to go (cf. cs:Letiště Praha-Ruzyně). --Mormegil 15:56, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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A light sidenote to Matt Borak: You're right, Czech Airports Authority is probably correct, but I am afraid not even CAA itself is too sure about that. I did look at the page you pointed to before my correction! The only catch is that I looked down, while you looked up -- see the page footer, Copyright (c) 2003 - 2005 Czech Airport Authority ;-). But, anyway, the Czech version Česká správa letišť has plural, too, so I guess plural is the correct form. --Mormegil 15:56, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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I suggest changing the title of the article to Prague Airport on the basis that:

• Airport's official website calls it Prague Airport in English.
• Prague Airport has substially higher number of hits in Google than Prague International Airport, Ruzyně International Airport or Prague-Ruzyně Airport.
• Prague Airport is a literal translation of its official Czech name Letiště Praha. Koristka (talk) 22:06, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

History of Ruzyne International Airport

May I ask whether there could be possibly added a paragraph about the history of Ruzyne International Airport, based on what can be found at http://www.prg.aero/en/site/airport/o_spolecnosti/historie/historie_od_zalozeni.htm ?

Until those more experienced and wise wikipedia users decide whether the article about history of airport is fit to be moved to main article, I place it here at this discussion site to be steadily improved.

History of Ruzyne International Airport

The Prague – Ruzyně Airport began operation on April 5, 1937, but the civil aviation started at the military airport in Prague - Kbely in 1919. Due to insufficient capacity of the Kbely airport in the middle of 30s of last century, the Government decided to develop a new State Civil Airport in Ruzyně. The Ruzyně fields have been chosen by aviation experts in 1929 and the building ban applied at the same time to the neighborhoods close to the airport as well as the towns nearby. The area of 108 hectares (the then value of 17.5m Crowns) was of an approximate trapezoid shape.

An anonymous public tender has been announced in 1931 for a complete airport solution including the budget. The airport area was located 10 km West from the city centre in the average latitude of 363 meters. Of the total area of 108 hectares, 35 hectares were built on. The runway system consisted of grassy starting and landing lanes.

The basic development began on July 4, 1933. The landscaping took eleven months. The contractors were allowed to use only limited mechanization, as one of the objectives of the airport development was to reduce unemployment. The development took 44 months and the airport was completed on March 1, 1937 including excellent parameters and equipment, so that one of the major awards of Prague Ruzyně Airport include Diploma and Gold Medal granted in 1937 at the occasion of the International Art and Technical Exhibition in Paris for the technical conception of the central airport, primarily the architecture of check-in building designed by architect Ing. A. Beneš.

The Czechoslovakia occupation in 1939 and the war slowed down the air transportation in such extent that the airport was back at the beginning in 1945. The Prague-Ruzyně airport re-launched civil aviation again in June 1945, although with some limitations.

Clearly, the political and economic changes affected the seventy years of existence of the Prague-Ruzyně Airport. Ten entities were responsible for airport administration over time, including the new construction and development. Until 90s of the last century, there were two or three decade gaps before the major modernization of the Prague-Ruzyně Airport began in order to match the current capacity requirements.

Prague-Ruzyně Airport Development Phases

Basic development: 1933-1937

Extraordinary development (did not influence the overall airport development, the objective was to enable operation of new jet planes): 1957 – 1968

II. development, so called new development in the Northern construction site: 1961 - 1968, resp. 1972.

III. development (also reconstruction and expansion of the check-in building and development of board services building): 1989 – 1993

IV. development, the second major part of development with a construction of a new Northern check-in complex, including reconstruction of the check-in building from 1968. The parking space has been expanded and new support buildings and communication system were developed: 1995 - 1997. The Prague-Ruzyně Airport, Air Navigation Services, Civil Aviation Authority, ČSA and private investors participated in the development of purpose-built facilities or reconstruction of the existing buildings during 90s.

V. development – so called Europe Development was launched in 2003. Terminal North 2 targets the annual capacity of 10 million passengers with the following development of the parallel starting and landing lanes 06R/24L. The future development until 2020 expects the extension of the annual capacity of the Prague-Ruzyně Airport up to 20 million passengers. --Bluewind 18:16, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

I propose moving Ruzyně International Airport to Prague Airport. Most importantly, Ruzyně International Airport is not how the airport is called. See its official website.

The airport itself in located in Ruzyně, which is a part of Prague, it serves to Prague and its original name is Letiště Praha. Similarly, Birmingham International Airport is located in Solihull. However, it is quite reasonably called Birmingham International Airport. Koristka (talk) 19:30, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

(Yet another) Call to change the name of the article

It should be Prague Ruzyně Airport or simply Ruzyně Airport. The work international is neither in its name nor is it commonly used.

Language of the Article

Has a lot of the article been written by native Czech speakers? I'm not knocking anyone (I wish I could write a Wikipedia article in German or French :) ), some of the sentence formations just seem a bit odd: probably like some of my German sentences. Kingal86 (talk) 10:51, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing. 69.137.130.101 (talk) 19:27, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey, this is wikipedia, so if you do not like the language of the article and you think you can do it better then just go ahead and improve it! I think it is good that people from Czechia have been writing this article as it is the locals who have the most accurate information. Martin --93.96.240.145 (talk) 18:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Czechoslovakia vs Czech Republic

I have slightly changed the wording of the beginning of the first sentence in the History section, as it is totally inaccurate to say "Czechoslovakia, today Czech Republic". Czechoslovakia is not today Czech Republic, as Czechoslovakia has two descendant states, Czech Republic being one of them and Slovak Republic being the other. Martin --93.96.240.145 (talk) 19:09, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Ryanair ending flights to and from Prague

Only Birmingham and Frankfurt have been updated as "ending in June" but Dublin and Stockholm will also end, but in October. Can someone update it please?

Name

The airport is adopting the (nonsense Czenglish word order) name "Václav Havel Airport Prague" as of today. Should the article be renamed? - filelakeshoe 09:53, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Well, this is apparently the official English version of the name… Maybe the original intent was to include a dash, i.e. “Václav Havel Airport – Prague”. [1] --Mormegil (talk) 22:21, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

It is, to be honest I would keep the article at "Václav Havel Airport Prague". The original intent was to call it "Prague Airport - Václav Havel" actually. - filelakeshoe 09:40, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Why was/is Wind of freedom so adamant in moving the article to a IMHO well researched^NOR name Prague Václav Havel Airport? The official name really is (and I think no one here is questioning that) “Václav Havel Airport Prague”, so what argument(s) then, can actually exonerate such a decision? (That question is still valid even if that name really might not have typical form for an airport) And what the others here have to say? Reo ⁺ 03:38, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Well, there are a lot of sources using "Prague Václav Havel Airport", presumably because it's correct English and the official name is not,[2] [3] [4] [5], and because there's no real reason for the airport to have an unconventional name. Maybe we could compromise and move it to "Václav Havel Airport", cf John F. Kennedy International Airport? - filelakeshoe 09:38, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

All these sources are wrong, OFFICIAL english name is "Vaclav Havel Airport Prague", see [6]. This word order may be inconventional, but it's the official name of the airport, I don't see any reason why the name should be Prague Václav Havel Airpot (as is right now). Mikiqex (talk) 11:57, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Requested move 2

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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 13:50, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

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Prague Václav Havel Airport → Václav Havel Airport Prague – On October 5th, 2012, Prague/Ruzyně civil international airport was renamed “Václav Havel Airport Prague”, as approved by the Government of the Czech Republic last March. In May 2012, the official versions of the new airport name were published. It was determined that due to the foreign majority of the airport clientele the priority will be given to the English version VÁCLAV HAVEL AIRPORT PRAGUE, in Czech LETIŠTĚ VÁCLAVA HAVLA PRAHA. source: http://www.prg.aero/en/prague-airport/about-airport/vaclav-havel-airport-prague/ Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 11:40, 17 July 2014 (UTC) Bezzemek (talk) 22:25, 9 July 2014 (UTC) Bezzemek (talk) 22:25, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Remember that Wikipedia doesn't care about the official name of anything, and in the likely event that English languages sources not written by FCE students decide to use conventional word order, we should follow them. My preference would be for simply Václav Havel Airport, which is unambiguous, but if you can prove that enough English sources written by English speakers use "Václav Havel Airport Prague" then we can move it. – filelakeshoe (t / c)  08:06, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

I don't think "Prague Václav Havel Airport" even qualifies as a common name... I've searched and found the below (native English) sources.

A) Sources using "Václav Havel Airport Prague" (with diacritical mark):

Yelp http://www.yelp.com/biz/v%C3%A1clav-havel-airport-prague-praha

Air News Times http://www.airnewstimes.co.uk/korean-air-introduces-a380-at-v%C3%A1clav-havel-airport-prague-15710-news.html

FlightGear http://wiki.flightgear.org/V%C3%A1clav_Havel_Airport_Prague

FourSquare https://foursquare.com/v/termin%C3%A1l-1--leti%C5%A1t%C4%9B-v%C3%A1clava-havla-praha--v%C3%A1clav-havel-airport-prague/4bd2a73777b29c747a368f82

In Your Pocket guide http://www.inyourpocket.com/czech-republic/prague/arrival-transport/airport/Vaclav-Havel-Airport-Prague_29977v

Global Blue (tax free shopping guide) http://www.globalblue.com/customer-services/tax-free-shopping/refund-points/czechrepublic/prague-terminal-11/

B) Sources using Vaclav Havel Airport Prague (no carka):

Flight Stats http://www.flightstats.co.uk/FlightStatus/flightStatusByAirport.do?airportCode=PRG&

Google Maps https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=205367533274708046732.0004d99961f32d3267956&dg=feature

Booking.com http://www.booking.com/airport/cz/prg.html

Alternatively, some other common names

C) Sources leaving off the city name but keeping the diacritical mark (e.g., "Prague's Václav Havel Airport"):

Emirates http://www.emirates.com/english/airport_details/531796/prague-vaclav-havel-airport-prg

Lufthansa http://www.lufthansa.com/cz/en/Lufthansa-airport-offices

D) Sources leaving off both the city name and the carka ("Vaclav Havel Airport"):

Expedia http://www.expedia.co.uk/Vaclav-Havel-Airport-Hotels.0-aPRG-0.Travel-Guide-Filter-Hotels

Edmonton Journal (CA) http://www.edmontonjournal.com/travel/Ports+Bows+Paris+North+worthy+cruise+extension/9959585/story.html

E) Sources using "Prague Airport" (the most popular common name)

Airport Business (magazine) http://www.airport-business.com/2014/06/compelling-connectivity-cities-regions-europe/

Exhibition World (magazine) http://www.exhibitionworld.co.uk/newsdetails/3536/prague-convention-bureau-continues-industry-boost-with-ambassador-prog

ITCM http://www.incentivetravel.co.uk/news/venuesevents/20755-prague-convention-bureau-organises-networking-breakfast-on-why-and-how-to-get-an-international-congress-to-prague ---Bezzemek (talk) 04:08, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2014

Air One will close all its flights to Prague (Pisa on 30 october 2014, the others on 30 september 2014), And Alitalia will open a new flight to Pisa (on 30 october 2014)

• Ok, I give you two sources: http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/30679-alitalia-to-phase-out-air-one-from-october

http://www.alitalia.com/gb_en/news/aggiornamento-operativo.html And also, You Can see Alitalia's website (alitalia.com) and Air One's (flyairone.com) for the new flight PSA-PRG — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wjkxy (talk • contribs) 08:17, 5 September 2014 (UTC) Wjkxy (talk) 08:00, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 12:23, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 November 2014

Add to CSA destinations: Billund (begins 31 March 2015) and Oslo-Gardermoen (begins 30 March 2015). Source: CSA booking engine. Flying2tennis (talk) 13:32, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Done Stickee (talk) 00:03, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2015

Gaba02 (talk) 16:03, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 20:39, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Edit Request

Can someone change the start date for China Eastern Airlines as it should be "2 April 2016" not "5 April 2016" per the cited source. 97.85.113.113 (talk) 05:43, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

 Done. /wia /tlk 06:52, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Map

Airport Map

Hi, when there is any reason, why this map is not suitable for the article, please discuss it here, before delete. See also the Discussion in the Map workshop --CellarDoor85 (talk) 09:33, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Please discuss new content or styles BEFORE adding them. There has already been a discussion at the aviation portal recently regarding the creation and use of maps which did not vote in favour of adding and creating maps in various styles. Additionally, the map you added creates a very large space within the article as the text section is too short for more files. Best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.244.150.183 (talk) 20:47, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

The "reasons" you mentioned are incomprehensible. I can't understand at all why a map from the airport should be useless in an article about the airport. Please add a link to the discussion at the aviation portal - I dont find anything like this. --CellarDoor85 (talk) 08:12, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

The relevant guidelines are at WP:AVIMOS and WP:WikiProject Aviation/Style guide/Layout (Airports). If help is needed ask at WP:WikiProject Airports' talk page or WT:Aviation. -Fnlayson (talk) 03:09, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

The IP above refers to maps of destinations, maps of facility layouts in airports are perfectly valid.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:16, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Please fix the names of villages:

• "Kněževes" (not Kneževes)
• "Přední Koponina" (not Prední Kopanima)
• "Na Padesátníku" (not Na Padestáník)
• "Hostivice" (not Hostitive)

Also border of the Prague should be included in the map.--Jklamo (talk) 04:19, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

The mistakes in the map are fixed, I consulted the Aviation, Map and Airport Portal an there is enough space in the article - I don't see further reasons why this map schould not be suitable for the article. --CellarDoor85 (talk) 17:04, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

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