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The position of "Commander in Chief of North America" was created during the French and Indian War. General Gage was the last person to hold this position, as it was abolished in 1775 and replaced by a Commander in chief, America, who oversaw the British forces opposing what one year later would come to be called the United States (Gnl. Howe), and a second position, Commander in chief, Quebec, who oversaw British forces from Quebec. After the Treaty of Paris in 1783, Commander in Chief, America was abolished and the other position was renamed as Comander in Chief of the Canadas, and Commander in Chief of the Maritime Provinces. If Prince Edward was appointed in 1799 he cannot possibly have been appointed CINC North America, a position that had been abolished sixteen years earlier. All I want is for the article to be accurate. I had no idea that my correction would be controversial - even someone who is ignorant of the history of the military structure surely should know that the British had no miliary presense or operations in the US, Louisiana, or New Spain. My only mistake was to think that CINC North America was a mistake for CINC Candada - Prince Edward was actually appointed CINC of the Maritime Provinces (headquartered in Halifax). Eddaido has reverted a simple and obvious correction three times, calling me "sensitive" for no reason. But perhaps it is Eddaido who is being sensitive? Slrubenstein | Talk15:16, 21 January 2012 (UTC)Reply
We watch nightly the results of the decisions of the Commander-in-Chief USA and sometimes his actions so that is the person first brought to mind when the title (C-in-C) is mentioned. So I instantly see why this title, Commander-in-Chief, North America, might irritate some.
I had no watch on the article to which I linked the passage under discussion. I now find a (self-described) Massachusetts resident editor of German and Swiss descent mightily amended the article twelve months ago after some years of regular maintenance work by contributors who are in my experience reliable.
Now about her/his references to the Dictionary of Canadian Biography. If there were an exactly equivalent work about Massachusetts (and it may be there is) it will give people titles with regard only to Massachusetts and that, I guess, is how MagicPiano has got lost. See? Watch this and that space! cheers, Eddaido (talk) 23:48, 21 January 2012 (UTC)Reply
P.S. Near where I live there is a US Embassy. It is guarded by what look like to me US Soldiers. This is not a US territory. (ref:"no miliary presense or operations in the US"). We have no formal US military presence but . . . Eddaido (talk) 23:48, 21 January 2012 (UTC)Reply
Um, this article is not about the Commander in Chief of the United States of America. It also is not about Massachusetts. It is also not about any United States Embassy. What on earth are you babbling about? Cheers, Slrubenstein | Talk13:26, 22 January 2012 (UTC)Reply
P.S. In my travels I have seen a number of UK Embassies with UK military personnel. I haven't been to the embassy in Washington but I assume that they have military personnel too. So what?
Aw shucks, sorry, my little word-pictures weren't meant to try to get under your skin but to get the concepts across to you. Its Gibraltar, not Gibralter and the Hampton Court referred to must be Hampton Court Palace, the other notable one is a private residence - and what a quite remarkably notable appointment to be put into the lead! Sorry, Eddaido (talk) 19:48, 22 January 2012 (UTC)Reply
Oh, sorry, I dod not mean to insult anyone from Gibralter, it was just a title. His appointment to Hamtom Court seems to be his last formal appointment which seems proper to round out the lede. I am not sure what concepts you are trying to comunicate - you may want to try plain English. The only issue here is the correct command structure of British forces in the Americas at the time, with regards to providing Edward's correct title. Sorry if my reference to UK Embassies hurt your feelings, that was not my intention. Cheers, Slrubenstein | Talk12:29, 23 January 2012 (UTC)Reply
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