Talk:Produce X 101

Requested move 19 March 2019

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The result of the move request was: moved (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 19:38, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

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Produce X101 → Produce X 101 – This is the exact title according to the official website http://produce-x-101.mnet.com/pc/intro. Kenny htv (talk) 12:00, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support, for the reason mentioned above. Seokgjin (talk) 08:19, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support as above. Heolkpop (talk) 14:13, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support, for the reason above.Ohmyfifthharmony (talk) 03:17, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

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11th Trainee Rank

I am at odds here, should their be 11 contestants under the rankings? Only the top 10 are listed as priority on the official website and the 11th ranked trainee Kang Minhee is bellow them stylized like the other trainees. Being that the 11th trainee is determined based off the four ceremony rankings, should we include the 11th trainee or remove them from the list, only adding them for the episode in which they are ranked 11th?Ohmyfifthharmony (talk) 16:50, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Episodes

PLEASE UPDATE EVERY EPISODES Aasakapaken (talk) 01:50, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Split proposal

The section on the vote manipulation is not only getting long (which may cause WP:UNDUE), but it also overlaps with Idol School, Produce 48, X1, and Iz*One. Should we split it to its own article? lullabying (talk) 03:55, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Support the split, though it would have been nice if Bibian48 would have actually engaged in discussion before completely removing any information on this from the article in a copy-paste move to a new article. This article still needs a summary of the events and not just a link to another article. Alex (talk) 17:52, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Sorry I didn’t see - Bibian 48

@Bibian48: The tag mentioned that there was a discussion taking place; please make sure to read it next time before making a bold edit. I have reverted the edit. We still need to discuss how we will write the article. lullabying (talk) 17:56, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Also adding to read WP:COPYWITHIN for copy-pasting within Wikipedia. I was the only editor documenting the news and copy-pasting without attribution is frowned upon. lullabying (talk) 18:12, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

I have moved the article that Bibian48 created into draft-space (Draft:Mnet voting manipulation investigation) while discussion continues and article can be worked on before publishing. Do you know which notability guidelines would apply to this article, besides WP:GNG? Alex (talk) 18:01, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

@Alexanderlee: I'm actually not quite sure what other notability guidelines it satisfies. Maybe WP:EVENTCRIT? lullabying (talk) 18:12, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

@Lullabying: Possibly. I do agree it needs splitting, though, it is getting quite lengthy. You’ve done a great job expanding it to what it is currently. For sections, I’m not sure if there’s already a manual of style or guideline as to how an article like this should be written but I think grouping the different shows would be more beneficial, instead of different sections for each show. Such as, a lead, a little background on how the different shows voting systems work and how it was discovered, the investigation developments, how it effected the group/artist? Alex (talk) 18:28, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

@Alexanderlee: Thanks. Probably we should section it off as Background + Incident + Lawsuit/Investigation + Responses? Also, let me know if you want me to not ping you for replies in case you're already following this talk page. lullabying (talk) 18:46, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

@Lullabying: yes those sound more appropriate. Pings are fine. I’m not sure if you already have, but I think it would be worth leaving a talk page message on any other retuclea that this involves, or even on the project wiki page. (I’m not sure which are involved other than this one) Alex (talk) 19:32, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

@Alexanderlee: Sure thing, I'll get to work. As for other project pages, so far Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea is the most appropriate because the people there are the most familiar with the subject. Should I try to tag interest at Talk:Iz*One and Talk:X1 (band)? lullabying (talk) 19:36, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

@Lullabying: I think it may be worth the tag, especially if those articles relate. The project page is more likely to bring in others opinions too Alex (talk) 19:52, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

@Alexanderlee: I already made a post on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea/Popular culture#Produce X 101. I'll see what I can do about Iz*One and X1. lullabying (talk) 21:26, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Are you planning to make a unified article on Mnet vote manipulation? What we don't need is one article per program. WikiProject Television/Reality television task force might be interested too. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:12, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

@AngusWOOF: the current draft, Draft:Mnet voting manipulation investigation, includes all the relevant information in one article. Alex (talk) 22:17, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

@AngusWOOF: Thanks for the advice; I dropped a tag at WP:TV. lullabying (talk) 00:23, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

@Alexanderlee: @Bibian48: I did some writing to the draft and some feedback would be appreciated! Let me know what information I need to add. I know the background section needs to be sourced though. lullabying (talk) 19:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

@Lullabying: It’s perfect ! - Bibian48

Hi, I support the split. It looks fine and just about ready to go! Bubblepop8 (talk) 21:43, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback. I will be launching the article soon. lullabying (talk) 00:40, 9 November 2019 (UTC)