Talk:Don Muang Royal Thai Air Force Base

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv (talk) 11:51, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

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• RTAFB Don Muang → Don Muang Royal Thai Air Force Base
• RTAFB Takhli → Takhli Royal Thai Air Force Base
• RTAFB Korat → Korat Royal Thai Air Force Base
• RTAFB Ubon → Ubon Royal Thai Air Force Base
• RTAFB Udorn → Udorn Royal Thai Air Force Base

– Articles were recently renamed from the understandable "Royal Thai Air Force Base" to the obscure abbreviation "RTAFB". This is in violation of WP:ACRONYMTITLE. It is also neither recognizable nor natural per WP:Article titles, since the general reader will have no idea what an RTAFB is. A quick browse through Google Books shows that the abbreviation is not overwhelmingly common, and when used, it is almost always accompanied by the full term at first occurrence. The names also appear in the form "Don Muang RTAFB" rather than "RTAFB Don Muang". Suggest that these articles revert to their former names. 182.52.52.32 (talk) 14:06, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

• Comment why "x RTAFB" instead of "RTAFB x" ordering? If you look a military sites, they are "Fort X", not "X fort", "Camp Y", not "Y camp", "Firebase Z", not "Z firebase"... -- 76.65.128.252 (talk) 02:09, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

• Support: absolutely no idea what 'RTAFB' as it is not a common title.--Michaela den (talk) 02:25, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

• Support: A abbreviation is not the official name of the base. Bwmoll3 (talk) 03:05, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

• Support as per nom. The recently-adopted name was not achieved through discussion or consensus that I know of; IMO it doesn't look natural. The long-standing name should be reverted to until a consensus had been made for a wholesale change. Kyteto (talk) 15:55, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

• Comment In response to 76.x, "Camp Y" instead of "Y Camp" depends on naming convention. See Pasir Laba Camp in contrast to the American convention of Camp Humphreys. As to the main issue, this naming convention is used by at least some countries. For example, see CFB Goose Bay, RAF Mount Pleasant. I believe Barksdale Air Force Base may be referred to as Barksdale AFB by those in service too, as an American example. So, should these abbreviations be spelled out in full? Wikipedia:ACRONYMTITLE indicates that it should. Whatever the decision, it should be applied consistently. That being the case, this talk page is probably not the best forum for the discussion. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 16:20, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

• Support per nom - much more clear to have spelt out version. Buckshot06 (talk) 19:29, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

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