Talk:Rapid intensification

Info??

For the life of me, I can't find any more info on rapid deepening than the basic NWS definition...although i distinctly remember reading an entire paper on it from the NHC. Can anyone find more info?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Runningonbrains (talk • contribs)

• I think this is a sign that this article shouldn't exist, and any perntinent information be merged with tropical cyclone. I think about 2 sentences would suffice, if it doesn't already mention thi s phenomenon. TimL 15:16, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

I created this article because it was a requested article. Unless there is a lot of support for the merger of this article, I'd like to keep it. Come fall, when I return to my campus, I will be able to accest meteorology journals, and probably expand this article greatly. Runningonbrains 16:08, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Pretty much nothing should be merged into Tropical cyclone anymore; that article is huge. On a side note, shouldn't it be named Rapid intensification instead? Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 06:24, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

The NWS glossary lists the term as "rapid deepening", so I believe the title is fine. Runningonbrains 22:11, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Non-tropical systems

Can "rapid deepening" also be applied to non-tropical cyclones that intensify at similar rates? CrazyC83 23:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, it probably can - however, this phenomenon is much more commonly applied to tropical systems. KyuuA4 08:03, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) No, they just bomb. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 08:04, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Defined in terms of ΔV

The NHC defined rapid intensification in their 2007 verification report as "a 30 kt increase in maximum winds in a 24 h period, and corresponds to the 5th percentile of all intensity changes in the Atlantic basin," pointing to Kaplan and DeMaria (2003). How should we reflect this in the article? Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 21:02, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Rapid deepening vs. Explosive intensification

Do we have an NHC report on what is involved in the latter, more extreme case, to differentiate it from the standard concept of rapid deepening? --Chr.K. (talk) 05:13, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Explosive Intensification Rare or Not?

The text in question: "Explosive intensification is rather rare, as conditions must be exceedingly favorable for cyclone intensification. Explosive intensification occurs regularly in the West Pacific basin, with the greatest frequency off the north coast of Australia; however, it has occurred numerous times in the Atlantic basin" (emphasis added)

Either Explosive Intensification is rare, or it is not. I'd prefer someone more qualified than I make an appropriate edit, but I don't mind researching this a bit and doing it myself when I have some time. Davidl9999 (talk) 20:57, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Article structure and info

There's too much examples in this article. Almost all info here is composed of examples, with only some ones have sources backing it up. I think that we should clean up this article (just like was done in the Fujiwhara effect article), leaving only the most notable examples and expanding the sections about the physics aspects about the phenomenon (similar to Bombogenesis article). ABC paulista (talk) 16:23, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Go for it - though i do wonder if Bomb and rapid deepening could be merged, since they are the same bar tropical/extratropical.Jason Rees (talk) 17:43, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Hurricane Wilma image

I don't think this image is actually of Wilma at peak intensity. It might be still Category 5 at the time of that image but it is clearly undergoing an eyewall replacement cycle and it's too long after its initial attainment of Category 5 for that to be its 185 mph peak intensity. So I would suggest either the replacement or removal of that image.--Jasper Deng (talk) 20:19, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Merge?

This article is composed of two (short) paragraphs of information on rapid deepening followed by a long list of "notable instances" that are arbitrarily added. As such, I don't really see the need to for an entire standalone article. Should we merge it with tropical cyclone? TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 00:06, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

I think it's a good idea. Merge to "intensity"? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:30, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Bomb (Explosive cyclogenesis) might be a better target.Jason Rees (talk) 18:44, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

It is already mentioned in Explosive cyclogenesis; however, bomb/explosive cyclogenesis is a term reserved for extratropical cyclones. Merging the content to Tropical cyclone#Intensity, Tropical cyclone#Formation, or Tropical cyclogenesis would be better. Of those, I don't have a strong preference, but a merge to explosive cyclogenesis would be meteorologically incorrect. Inks.LWC (talk) 18:56, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 7 September 2017

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Titoxd^(?!?) 02:18, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

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Rapid deepening → Rapid intensification – To match current NHC definition and use see: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutgloss.shtml#r The current scheme uses only windspeed increase to quantify the characteristic, not using pressure now, so intensification is the correct current name. Lacunae (talk) 12:25, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Lacunae (talk) 15:19, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

• Support - I dont know why it isnt at Rapid intensification already.Jason Rees (talk) 21:04, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
• Support, it's a more sensible title, and it's equally accurate. Titoxd^(?!?) 07:55, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

• Support It redirects to a area in the page in Tropical Cyclone which is crazy. Gary "Roach" Sanderson (talk) 22:14, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
• Support - lead section even uses the "rapid intensification" term; different names in the title and lead would likely just confuse people. 65HCA7 11:17, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
• Support. This is the modern nomenclature; rapid deepening has been depreciated, and nowadays they're more concerned with wind speed than pressure changes. Titanium Dragon (talk) 02:12, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

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Maria? What about Irma?

Maria already gets a mention here, but what about record-breaking hurricane Irma that was a long track but also rapidly intensifying hurricane at one point. B137 (talk) 16:48, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Never mind, Irma was very slow and steady. B137 (talk) 16:50, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Example

Perhaps replace the gif of Maria with a gif of Cyclone Veronica, as I don't see many southern hemisphere storms mentioned outside of their respective articles. Or maybe Typhoon Hagibis of this year, for a slightly more recent storm BananaIAm (talk) 07:45, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Should the recent example for rapid intensification be Otis Instead Of Jova?

I know Jova Is a good example but isn't Otis a better one? Aust4anEmpire (talk) 03:36, 25 October 2023 (UTC)