Talk:Referendums in the Philippines

Requested move 19 October 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

---

Procedural close. Article title administratively moved to Referendums in the Philippines. Discussion may continue informally or by opening a new move request at any time. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 00:49, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

---

Referendums and plebiscites in the Philippines → Referendums in the Phillipines – This article has been moved more than twice in the past 7 days. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:11, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

This article has been moved more than twice in the past 7 days. FWIW, I see that "referendum" refers to a general term for an electoral exercise that involves voting but not actual people, and "plebiscite" refers to a subset of electoral exercises of referendums. Other people may interpret this differently. Howard the Duck (talk) 22:19, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

• Referendums and plebiscites mean two different things in the Philippines and we should adapt to local terminology (i.e. have both in the article title). Marcocapelle (talk) 07:21, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

  As stated above, one way of interpreting is that referendums are the general term, while plebiscites are a specific subset of it. Academicians prefer to use "referendum" as a catch-all term, e.g. "The referendum scorecard 1935-1987" by Manuel L. Quezon III, plus the Dieter Nohlen book also used "referendum".

  If anything, this should be moved back as it was moved several times without discussion. Howard the Duck (talk) 16:02, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

• Article restored to status quo ante location pending the outcome of the discussion. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:47, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

2024 Special Geographic Area plebiscites

@Howard the Duck: Were the 2024 Special Geographic Area plebiscites municipal-wide plebiscites? HueMan1 (talk) 23:24, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Good question; it does not, but led to creation of new municipalities. The criteria for inclusion is "These plebiscites involved entire municipalities or cities, asked for the incorporation of a new municipality, or asked for cityhood" (emphasis mine).

FWIW, I would still prefer that plebiscite article to be merged with the primary SGA one. Howard the Duck (talk) 23:29, 28 August 2024 (UTC)