Talk:Regions of Sweden

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Requested move 4 March 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 14:38, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

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Regional councils of Sweden → Regions of Sweden – “Regional council” as a translation of “region” seems to be made up on Wikipedia. I checked the websites of the regions, and out of the 21 regions, 9 had either no English website at all or only a machine translation, 2 still used the term “county council” (translation of the old “landsting”), and 5 used the term “region”. 3 regions (Norrbotten, Värmland and Västra Götaland) use “region” in their names, but still call themselves “county councils”. Another 2 regions (Västernorrland and Örebro) also used “region”, but since they are missing the possessive apostrophe I don’t think their translations can be relied upon. No region used “regional council” except Västra Götaland which used it as a translation of “regionfullmäktige”. This translation is also used by the Government Offices of Sweden. Based on this, I think we should use “region” and “regional council” as translations of “region” and “regionfullmäktige”, respectively. The Regions of Sweden page currently redirects to a section about a proposed merger of the current counties, I think it can be replaced by this article since someone who searches for “Regions of Sweden” is probably more likely to be looking for the current regions. 0x9fff00 (talk) 12:44, 4 March 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. BegbertBiggs (talk) 14:19, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

@Lovkal: Since you were the one who moved the article to its current name, what is your opinion on this? 0x9fff00 (talk) 12:46, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

@0x9fff00: Agreed; the term landsting is being phased out in favor of region and as far as I know the project with "proposed regions" which has been put forward by Ansvarskommittén is not being actively worked on at this time, mainly due to disagreements between the different regions. The currently existing regions are definitely more relevant to cover in Regions of Sweden than a proposed reorganization effort with no planned timeframe. Distinguishing the administrative division from the regional government would also be less confusing. I'm all for it. lovkal (talk) 12:53, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

I support this name change proposition. Additionally I think it would be appropriate to incorporate the section about the proposed merging of counties into this article as it is related to the county councils and regions of Sweden. MisterMrMaster (talk) 18:26, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

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Not an administrative subdivision

This statement is in my opinion not correct: "and one of the principal administrative subdivisions of Sweden". The principal administrative subdivision of Sweden should be the counties. Within counties there are different ways to organize political power between the central and the regional level, mainly regions and county administrative boards. My view seems to be in line with how Swedish Wikipedia describes the concepts. Any thoughts? Belteshassar (talk) 09:30, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

@Belteshassar, län ("counties") are only geographical subdivisions. They have no political or administrative relevance as such. Peter ^Isotalo 01:06, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Renaming

It appears that there was a formal renaming to the format 'Region X' in 2019 -so the entries should be changed here. (I have insufficient practice with aligning tables.) Jackiespeel (talk) 13:22, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jackiespeel, I agree. The webpages of the regions that have English info pages all use the format "Region X". I don't know where the term "X Regional Council" comes from. It seems someone just assumed that just the "county" part was replaced. Peter ^Isotalo 01:08, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Possibly it made sense when originally set up and nobody was interested enough to update them when the changeover happened. Jackiespeel (talk) 14:36, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

It never made sense. Someone updated without actually looking up the terminology. Peter ^Isotalo 15:24, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Found while doing things elsewhere in the wikiverse, and not one of my main topics - need someone with Swedish interests (and not likely to dislocate tables) to resolve. Jackiespeel (talk) 13:28, 14 February 2024 (UTC)