Talk:Rest of the world in sports and games

Requested move 21 August 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved. sovereign°sentinel (contribs) 07:50, 29 August 2015 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

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Rest of the world → Rest of the world in sports and games – This is not about "rest of the world" such as the non-First World, or the non-aligned nations. It should be moved to make way for a set index for the various uses. -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:30, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

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Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

• Support daftly meaningless title at present. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:43, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

• Support per nom and In ictu oculi, completely meaningless and unhelpful title at present.Pincrete (talk) 09:11, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

edit conflict In ictu oculi - You know stuff! Any thoughts on rulings related to the use of quotation marks. In this case I think that a title such as "Rest of the world" in sports and games would make good sense. GregKaye 09:15, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Don't know I'm afraid. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:03, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

• Comment I think the proposed name is bit wordy - what about Rest of the world (sport) instead? Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 10:08, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

• If we did that, we would probably have others who would argue that the move should then be reverted per WP:PRECISE. The proposed option is a more WP:NATURALDAB option. Steel1943 (talk) 14:56, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

• But it is naturally disambiguating the article from a concept that doesn't exist. —  AjaxSmack  16:24, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

• ...What a conundrum... Steel1943 (talk) 16:30, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

• Support. The current name is too generic. It doesn't give any idea that this is only about sports. JIP | Talk 18:35, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
  • The intro sentence says "sports" and "games", so also games. (and it's carrying a game-stub) This used to be WPCHESS reflecting the original version of the article, that had emphasis on chess, so games. -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 04:01, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose the proposed move because the proposed title strongly implies there is a larger coherent encyclopedic concept of the "rest of the world" of which this article is a subset. Support a move to a title with a parenthetical disambiguator like that suggested by User:Lugnuts above for the reasons given by other users. What do others​​​​ think? —  AjaxSmack  16:24, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

I also fail to see what the actual confusion is too. The article has existed since 2003 and is only now an issue? What other primary use(s) of "Rest of the world" are there? If there are others outside of sport, they can be handled by a hatnote/dab page. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 16:27, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

I agree but gratuitous addition of text in titles to "disambiguate" is a growing fad. I suppose I'm getting into the spirit, too. —  AjaxSmack  16:35, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

This is not just for disambiguation, this is for WP:PRECISION, since the current title is insufficient to describe the topic accurately. And the term "rest of the world" actually is used in the real world in contexts other than sports and games. -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 04:29, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

"Rest of the world" is simply far too generic to be about sports, games, or any other singular field of interest. If anything, "rest of the world" should be either a disambiguation page, or an article about the view of one geographical or ethnic entity towards, you know, all the others in the world. JIP | Talk 18:58, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

• Support either Rest of the world in sports and games or "Rest of the world" in sports and games. GregKaye 23:15, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
• Support. Happened on this discussion purely by chance, but the need for change seems obvious. BPK (talk) 15:29, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

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