Talk:Rochester Community Sports Complex Stadium

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• Can someone please add a picture of the stadium if possible? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nyrmetros (talk • contribs) .

Seating Capacity

What is its final seating capacity expected to be? Will it be the 13,000+ that it currently holds, or will there be more seats in the future? 207.69.137.9 02:51, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Requested move 17 June 2016

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The result of the move request was: No consensus, so moved. There is something of a lack of evidence as to the current common name for this stadium, and with arguments made to move back, but also someone saying they're fine with the current name given the lack of evidence, I'd say there's not much consensus. That means back to the long term title, but no prejudice against a new move request at any time.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:18, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

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Rochester Rhinos Stadium → Sahlen's Stadium – This page was moved to "Rochester Rhinos Stadium" as an "uncontroversial technical request" on WP:RM, but I can't see how this would be uncontroversial. While it's true the new owners of the team refer to the stadium exclusively as "Rhinos Stadium" (not "Rochester Rhinos Stadium", anyway), I haven't seen any official notice that the Sahlen's naming rights have been terminated. Until we have a reliable source verifying the name change, we should not prematurely make the change here. Powers ^T 01:46, 17 June 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Anarchyte (work | talk) 03:25, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Should be Sahlen's Stadium. TedErnst (talk) 02:09, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

No objection here, I did the move and didn't realize that it was a problem, so I'm willing to fix the error that I introduced. Montanabw^(talk) 06:45, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Ted, unfortunately that source is out of date; for example, the Rattlers no longer play there (and haven't since 2014). I suspect that it's actually true that the Sahlen's naming rights agreement has been terminated, given how consistently both the media and official Rhinos communications refer to the stadium as "Rhinos Stadium". I am tempted to contact local beat writer Jeff DiVeronica for confirmation, but even then it wouldn't likely be usable for our purposes. Powers ^T 18:30, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Strange that we can't find an up-to-date, reliable source for a stadium used by a professional team. I synced up the Thorns season schedule to my calendar and when the Thorns play WNY, the location shows as Sahlen's. I know that's not citable either, but it's what got me thinking about this. TedErnst (talk) 01:59, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

The broadcast of the Western New York Flash last weekend exclusively mentioned Rhino, no mention of Sahlen. Still weird to me we cannot find reference in print or on web for the change. I'm fine with leaving it as Rhino at this point. TedErnst (talk) 01:54, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

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Just as a note, there should be no prejudice against a move back to Rochester Rhinos Stadium (or Rhinos Stadium) should reliable evidence be found of a name change. Powers ^T 01:31, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

The NWSL calls it Rhinos Stadium. The WNY Flash calls it Rhinos Stadium. The Rochester Rhinos call it Rhinos Stadium. 71.36.124.212 (talk) 14:44, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

The Rhinos' ownership terminated the stadium's operating lease on Dec. 31. By April 25, the new owners and local media were calling it "Rhinos Stadium". Game reports in print call it Rhinos Stadium. Non-soccer events reported in print call it Rhinos Stadium. (2) The WNY Flash's ticketing site calls it Rhinos Stadium. The City of Rochester's site, in non-soccer event listings published on dates after the page calling it "Sahlen's Stadium", calls it Rhinos Stadium. (2) So do City of Rochester press releases for non-soccer events. (2) (3) The WNY Flash, in a press release apologizing about the state of the field at a one-off game in Frontier Field, call their home stadium Rhinos Stadium. 71.36.124.212 (talk) 15:01, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

References

Moved to Rochester Rhinos Stadium

I've updated and moved this page after adding multiple citations showing that the Sahlen's naming rights agreement is no longer in effect, as well as clarifying that the prior deal was for 5 years with an option to extend for an additional 5 years (which was not exercised), rather than a "10 year deal" as previously described. These citations are in addition to the various non-citable sources mentioned above (team documents and announcements referring to Rhinos Stadium, city press releases, etc.) In addition, as of last month the Rhinos are currently hiring a Senior VP of Corporate Partnerships, whose initial job priority will be to secure stadium naming rights: [1] Sevenless (talk) 16:31, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

I would have preferred a formal move request, given the above, but I appreciate your research. Powers ^T 15:50, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 14 April 2019

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus against move. (closed by non-admin page mover) feminist (talk) 19:23, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

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Marina Auto Stadium → Rochester, New York, soccer stadium – This stadium has changed its name five times in its short history, and seems likely to do this again in the future, as its naming rights are always held out as a short-term deal. Furthermore, these name changes have caused disambiguation problems, as a corporate sponsor that decides to sponsor a different stadium immediately creates an ambiguity. Rather than continuing to move the article on the whims of commercial promoters, we should find a permanent descriptive name. If there is some concern that another soccer stadium could be built, this could further be specified as Rochester, New York, soccer stadium (intersection of West Broad Street and Oak Street). bd2412 T 14:16, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

OPPOSE - Marina Auto Stadium is the current WP:COMMONNAME. SportsFan007 (talk) 14:36, 14 April 2019 (UTC)SportsFan007

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 10:46, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

• Move to Rochester Rhinos Stadium (or similar); we do not use sponsored names for soccer stadiums purely because of the frequent change in naming rights. GiantSnowman 10:48, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose per SportsFan007. Although I sympathise with the point made regarding continual name changes, we should only use an alternative if it is a name in reasonably common usage. The proposed name doesn't seem to be used by anybody. The current title is not only the WP:COMMONNAME, but pretty much the only name in use. As such, although it's annoying to have to change the name each time it changes, that is less bad than using a completely made up name instead. Rochester Rhinos Stadium doesn't really cut it either, because the Rhinos no longer play there and it is used by completely different teams these days. As a final point, if the proposed name does end up being used, please drop the "New York". We had had enough arguments regarding commas in names at Rochester metropolitan area, New York, and there is no need to start all that up again. Rochester soccer stadium is not ambiguous anyway.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:55, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose Per Amakuru. This seems like a bit of a solution in search of a problem when we have an accurate, commonly used title alreadt.--Yaksar (let's chat) 04:45, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

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Now the Rochester Community Sports Complex

By no later than mid-2019 the Marina naming rights seem to have lapsed and news stories referred only to the "downtown soccer stadium." The City of Rochester, which has owned the stadium for some years, rebranded it as the Rochester Community Sports Complex and began promoting it as a community asset. In January 2020 the city announced plans to develop an existing building on the property as an indoor training facility to provide for year-around use. See https://www.cityofrochester.gov/article.aspx?id=21474845211 - not at all sure how the page should be reworked (and probably renamed) to reflect this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjackson (talk • contribs) 20:50, 10 October 2020 (UTC)