Talk:Ronald Acuña Jr.

Requested move 13 August 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 08:55, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

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Ronald Acuña → Ronald Acuña Jr. – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:IDENTITY. Ronald Acuña Jr. appears to be largely what he is referred to by RS [1] [2] [3]. The MLB website and Baseball Reference also include the Jr., as do the Braves themselves. Should be noted that his jersey also reads Acuña Jr. and it's what he uses on his Twitter account. Nohomersryan (talk) 05:06, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

• Support No brainer. I figured his article was already titled that way before I looked it up today.BillVol (talk) 16:19, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
• Support @Nohomersryan:, as a note for the future, this kind of request could have been handled at WP:RM as a technical noncontroversial request not needing a discussion. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:02, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
  • I have pagemover so I probably could've done it myself... I just tend to assume if there's already a redirect at least one person disagrees.Nohomersryan (talk) 19:21, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

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2021 World Series Champion

Just wanted to make this note in light of the Braves winning the World Series. While Acuña will most likely receive a ring for his accomplishments prior to the injury, for official record keeping sake, we can't list him as a World Series Champion because he was not on the postseason roster. See prior consensus messages here and here. Thanks. Troutfarm27 ^(Talk) 04:09, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 November 2021

add world series champion 2607:F280:3001:1471:0:0:B327:43D4 (talk) 07:30, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Per my note above. Troutfarm27 ^(Talk) 11:33, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 November 2021

Ronald Acuna Jr 2021 World Series champion. 2600:6C5E:C7F:F74F:113A:126B:DA1B:85D1 (talk) 22:31, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: The consensus of WP:BASEBALL is to limit the World Series champion template and infobox mention to players who were on the roster in that series. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:39, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

2021 World Series Champion

He was a huge part of why they won the championship. He carried them for 82 games. Pablo Sandoval is listed as a 2021 champion so why aren’t you watching that wiki like a hawk ? Without his contributions they wouldn’t have made the playoffs and that’s a fact. They needed every game. I would understand more if we’re talking about Sandoval but it’s the face of the team who was in the dugout every game of the World Series and actually made a difference in half the games in the regular season. 2600:1700:89B0:1920:4142:D43E:ADC5:4699 (talk) 06:25, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Sandoval isn't listed in the infobox (of the Sandoval article) as a 2021 WS champion. Larry Hockett (Talk) 06:41, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Obviously you changed it because he was lol and had been for a while. Plus thank you for only replying back about Sandoval and not Acuña’s contributions to the title. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:89B0:1920:D10D:78E5:52D:ECC5 (talk) 16:51, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Lot's of people contribute to the team over the season, however we have a policy of only crediting people with a championship in the info box if they were on the World Series roster. Spanneraol (talk) 17:02, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Johan Camargo wasn’t on the World Series roster but is listed as a champion. Im almost certain most players would consider him a champion because of the level of play before he went down. The braves would not have made the playoffs with out him. By stats they replaced him with 4 players and that’s wild.

What reference are you using to say someone isn’t a champion? In most cases players that receive a ring have been referred as champions in other spots as well. Salty dodger fan ? Lol Jk — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:89B0:1920:D10D:78E5:52D:ECC5 (talk) 17:19, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Rob Gronkowski is listed as a Super Bowl LI champion and only played 2 games that season week 1&2. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:89B0:1920:D10D:78E5:52D:ECC5 (talk) 17:27, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

CBS SPORTS has called Acuña a World Series champion multiple times — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:89B0:1920:D10D:78E5:52D:ECC5 (talk) 17:35, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Players that aren't part of playing in the WS shouldn't have it listed as a "career highlight" because it was not part of their career. Camargo should not be listed either. The american football project has different consensus for their info boxesd than the baseball project does. Spanneraol (talk) 18:11, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

@Muboshgu: Can you help out here? The article could use some semi-protection again. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 18:04, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected for 10 days.

To the IP editors, yes, Acuña was a member of the 2021 Braves and he received a World Series ring. But, so do all of the players mentioned here. That includes Jeff Mathis and Sean Kazmar Jr., who played 3 games for the Braves, Jonathan Lucroy (2 games), Carl Edwards Jr., Ty Tice, Jay Flaa (1 game each), and more who played only a handful. We can't put them all in 2021 Atlanta Braves, it gets unwieldy. So, at WT:BASEBALL, there is consensus to limit it to the players who were on the postseason roster. That doesn't include Acuna. If you want to try to change that consensus, bring it up at WT:BASEBALL. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:15, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

I understand the point im making is Acuña played 82 games and if he played 1 or a hand full I would understand but 82 games that the braves desperately needed to win to make the playoffs and he played like the mvp for those 82. He is a champion no matter what but I just believe it should be mentioned here because he did earn his ring no question. Earned his ring not just given it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:89B0:1920:D10D:78E5:52D:ECC5 (talk) 18:27, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

It is a fair point that Acuna is way more important to the 2021 Braves than those guys I mentioned. This would be simpler if it was more of a Mike Soroka situation, where he didn't play at all in 2021. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:38, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

No one is denying Acuña's accomplishments last year. That's not the point. He didn't play in the World Series, as he wasn't on the roster, so he's not listed. That's all. It has nothing to do with whether or not he has a ring. BilCat (talk) 18:42, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

I’m not saying just because he got a ring he need to be listed. I’m pointing out the braves may not have won without his 82 game performance. Like Charlie Morton pitched 2 innings arguably didn’t factor in but was listed on the roster for 2 innings of actual baseball because they removed him. I think the work you guys do is amazing and I admire it. I can’t find the original discussion on why he isn’t listed as some told me to look for on WT:baseball — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:89B0:1920:D10D:78E5:52D:ECC5 (talk) 18:56, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

It's a guideline that applies to all baseball players, not just Acuña. I don't know if there was a specific discussion about Acuña or not at WT:BASEBALL, but the guideline goes back a long time. As to other players being listed who aren't on the World Series rosters, they're not supposed to be, and should be removed too. BilCat (talk) 21:06, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Acuna is a 2021 World Series Champion

Hey,

Can someone make sure to please add that Ronald Acuña Jr. won a 2021 World Series with the Atlanta Braves.

Thanks! 2601:C6:8401:A880:E8BA:D346:CC05:F37D (talk) 09:00, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Per the previous section, Acuña was not on the World Series roster, so it's not listed in his infobox. BilCat (talk) 09:07, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Records broken by Acuna Jr. 2023

In Cleveland game July 7, he beat a consecutive game streak of Bert Campaneris. https://dailycaller.com/2023/07/05/ronald-acuna-jr-atlanta-braves-history-record-mlb/ 97.104.109.42 (talk) 23:56, 8 July 2023 (UTC) Acuna became the first player to hit 40+ home runs and notch 70+ stolen bases in the same season. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salc456 (talk • contribs) 15:45, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

40-40 club in infobox

Currently memberships to certain clubs isn't part of the style guide for baseball player infoboxes, but I opened up a discussion about it here for those who are interested. Nemov (talk) 23:02, 4 October 2023 (UTC)