Talk:Rossz Csillag Alatt Született

Capitalization

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The result of the proposal was no consensus - Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 20:39, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Is it certain that the title and the track titles are all capitalized? It looks terrible in Hungarian. (The scanned title cover shows all letters in capitals, which needn't be specifically rendered as capitalized words.) -- Adam78 01:41, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

I have corrected the capitalization and given translations for the song titles. – KovacsUr 20:20, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

How album title spells? requesting an IPA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.154.221.100 (talk • contribs) 07:27, 19 August 2006

I've corrected some translations (szerencsétlen = (literally) luckless, dal = song). Furthermore I'd translate the word kétsarkú as double-heeled, because a native Hungarian would say bipoláris for bipolar--instead of the somewhat weird word kétsarkú. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.112.206.162 (talk • contribs) 21:24, 11 November 2006

The titles were most likely translated to Hungarian from English, hence the awkward 'kétsarkú'. I honestly do not think 'sikertelenség' and 'szerencsétlen' need a "literal" translation; these are completely valid forms, part of the normal Hungarian vocabulary. KovacsUr 20:07, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I've put in a request to get this page moved to Rossz Csillag Alatt Született because convention states that albums should have title capitalization. = ∫_t^c 5th Eye 01:50, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

• I strongly oppose this move. English capitalization rules should not be applied to album titles in languages other than English. KovacsUr (talk) 07:17, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

• All three of the offsite reviews use caps for the title, and WP:CAPS tells us to go with the capitalization of our sources in English, regardless of the capitalization usual for the native language. Dekimasuよ! 05:15, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

  You can't expect a casual reviewer (or even Aaron Funk himself, actually) to be knowledgeable about Hungarian (Spanish, French, German etc.) capitalization rules. An encyclopaedia, however, should use correct capitalization whenever possible. The only reason I can think of not to use correct capitalization may be to save the ungodly amount of effort required to keep the correct form from being reverted to the incorrect one. KovacsUr (talk) 12:47, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

• Support. Even if it really is written in lower capitals in Hungarian, I agree with User:Dekimasu. All the infobox links and the two references links all write it in capitals, so we should follow others lead. Callmederek (talk) 20:31, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

  I have corrected all references several times; they are reverted from time to time by people who think the capitalization is incorrect. See my comment above. KovacsUr (talk) 12:47, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

• comment Should we move Dans ma fusée to Dans Ma Fusée as well, then? Die neuen Leiden des jungen W. to Die Neuen Leiden des Jungen W., etc.? KovacsUr (talk) 12:32, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

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Pronunciation guides

It'd be nice someone who can speak Hungarian could contribute IPA or phonetic pronunciations for the title and maybe track names. --Rob W 11:54, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

IDM

"IDM"? C'mon, it's not the 90s anymore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.55.63.53 (talk) 20:15, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Requested move

According to WP:CAPS and current Wikipedia practice (see Ohne dich, La Vie en rose, Új név a régi ház falán, Corde della mia chitarra and so on), the title of this article should be Rossz csillag alatt született. Reference: A magyar helyesírás szabályai (the relevant section on Wikisource) (rough translation). KovacsUr (talk) 13:34, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

• Strong support as per reasons listed above. = ∫_t^c 5th Eye 18:12, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Page moved. Your reasons are correct and not controversial. WP:RM discussion is now closed. Target speedy deleted and article/talk page have been moved. Richard Cavell (talk) 05:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC) (admin)

Real Instruments?

I was just reading some reviews of this, and most of them say that Funk learned violin and trumpet and played those parts himself for this album. Can anyone shed some light on this? My sources were http://tinymixtapes.com/musicreviews/v/venetian_snares.htm and http://www.amazon.com/Rossz-Csillag-Szuletett-Venetian-Snares/dp/B0007QN900 . 59.167.238.141 (talk) 23:18, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

translation

I've reverted an edit by an anonymous editor with a history of mischievous edits, who changed the translation of Öngyilkos vasárnap" from "Suicidal Sunday" to "Gloomy Sunday". Although I don't speak Hungarian, it seems clear from both this page and the page for the original song that the Hungarian word "szomorú" translates as "gloomy". I'm assuming that Aaron Funk renamed the song in order to acknowledge the mythology of suicide associated with the song: it would be helpful if someone with a grasp of Hungarian could confirm this ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 20:35, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Rossz csillag alatt született

The current translation in the article is "Born under a Bad Star". I'm partly Hungarian and I interpreted the title as "Born under the wrong star" before reading this article. I know the sentence can be translated either way, but somehow the latter sounds more correct to me (but I can't really say why, but I think I've heard the latter phrase in other contexts). I'm not gonna edit, but this is just a note about it if anyone else is wondering. --217.211.254.193 (talk) 11:32, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

@217.211.254.193 I am Hungarian both by nationality and upbringing and you're right. 2A02:AB88:4701:8900:299C:B494:DC9:994C (talk) 21:26, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 2

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The result of the move request was: Moved. Cúchullain ^t/c 15:05, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

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Rossz csillag alatt született → Rossz Csillag Alatt Született – The official release page states that the name of this album is Rossz Csillag Alatt Született. http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ111 Vyrbius (talk) 00:10, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

• Support per WP:BANDNAME. --BDD (talk) 20:15, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

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