Talk:Bible Society in Russia

Requested move 12 April 2019

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The result of the move request was: Rough consensus that Bible Society in Russia is the most appropriate title — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:34, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

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Russian Bible Society → The Bible Society in Russia – 1. 'Российское Библейское Общество' (The name of the organization in Russian, the original language) founded in Russia does not translate their own name into English as 'Russian Bible Society', they translate it as 'The Bible Society in Russia'(See official website of the organization: http://www.biblia.ru/en/about/history/ ). The English version of the name 'Russian Bible Society' actually belongs to another unrelated organization called 'Русское Библейское Общество' founded in the United States (see the official website of the organization: https://russianbiblesociety.com/ ). 2. The difference in the names of the organizations in Russian (original language of both) is 'Российское' vs. 'Русское'. While both adjectives are often translated into English as 'Russian', each of the words in Russian language has a distinct denotation . 'Российское' suggests belonging to the country of Russia, while 'Русское' suggests belonging to the Russian people or culture. 'The Bible Society in Russia' is a closer translation of 'Российское Библейское Общество' (which is what the organization calls itself in English) than 'Russian Bible Society' (the name incorrectly chosen by the author of the article). Ivanchenkova (talk) 17:14, 12 April 2019 (UTC)--Relisted. – Ammarpad (talk) 05:56, 20 April 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. SITH (talk) 14:16, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

* Support. Per above. Per WP:THE, in this case the word "the" is not an issue because removing the word "the" would change the meaning of the title. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 00:22, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose. They certainly appear to use the current name and a Google search would suggest this is their common name in English (this seems to be the same organisation). Note that in intuitive English we would use "Russian" to translate both adjectives, whether pertaining to the country or to its culture and people; the distinction is not made in English! Even if it is moved, note that they do not capitalise the definite article even on their own website, so Bible Society in Russia would be correct. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:13, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Agreed. I change my vote to move to "Bible Society in Russia". --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 13:26, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

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