Talk:Russian submarine Sarov

Latest comment: 3 years ago by 64.222.107.49 in topic Drive system

hangon The lead unit of the Project 20120 submarine has been named "Sarov". Normal usage has class names deriving from the name o fthe lead unit of the class. Therefore, the creation of a page entitled "Sarov class submarine" is appropriate.Moryak (talk) 23:13, 28 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

it's not based on kilo class

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that's a false claim there's nothing whatsoever that makes it based on a kilo class. the size doesn't make any sense. that's a missquote from pseudo journalistic pieces — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.244.0.157 (talk) 01:14, 23 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

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BetacommandBot 07:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

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Never did understand why people go through sticking "citation needed" and "original research" labels all over an article when there are already citations right there in the article for everything. BobThePirate (talk) 01:44, 11 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Drive system

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 It is believed the reactor does not drive the propeller itself, but rather produces electricity to recharge the conventional battery system, greatly extending the underwater endurance of the submarine. It has been noted that since electric propulsion is inherently very quiet, but tends to lack range, possession of a long range electrical system would make Sarov an excellent intelligence gathering platform.

So what nuclear powered vessels have ever been made in which the reactor does "drive the propeller itself"? How would that even work? Reactors produce one thing: heat. Heat is used to generate steam, which drives turbines which power the vessel. In this case, the turbine drives a generator to power electric motors. The main internal noise producing elements of a nuclear submarine (iei besides the [propeller and hull noise) are the coolant pumps and the turbine. This system doesn't lack either of those items. The only benefit this has is that it can serve as a battery-powered boat when silence is required, and then afterwards recharge the batteries much more quietly and without resurfacing than is possible with a diesel-electric. And since it can probably take its time recharging, it can run both reactor and turbine at low levels, which can usually be done without coolant pumps, and with far less turbine noise.

So the system does make good sense, but this description of it is extremely lacking.

64.222.107.49 (talk) 20:29, 28 October 2021 (UTC)Reply