Talk:Samuel Merritt University

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"Samuel Merritt's students represent all ages, ethnicities, and geographical locations." Really? This reads like a brochure. If this is true, site a source at the least. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.80.64.135 (talk) 23:15, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Proposed edits by N123q

N123q opened discussion on my User Talk page with some proposed edits for this article. With their permission, I've copied the discussion here so we can continue the discussion in a location where other editors interested in this article are more likely to find it. ElKevbo (talk) 18:17, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

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Hi ElKevbo, I was trying to update the Samuel Merritt University wikipedia page, as some things have changed, but it seems like I did not format the edits correctly. Would you be able to offer some insight as to what steps I missed? Thanks! N123q (talk) 14:49, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Here's my sandbox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:N123q/sandbox N123q (talk) 15:21, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

@N123q: I'm happy to help. What exactly are you trying to update or change? ElKevbo (talk) 21:22, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! There's a few things:

1. that the university is a private non-profit health sciences university that has served the community for over 114 years.
2. that it was founded as a nursing school in 1909, and that has since expanded into a health sciences university, including three colleges - College of Nursing, College of Health Sciences, and College of Podiatric Medicine and has grown to include programs in occupational and physical therapy, physician assistant, and podiatric medicine.
3. that the University is ranked by U.S. News & World Report among the best graduate programs in health sciences and was named Best in the U.S. by Intelligent.com.
4. There are also some edits about its history and updates regarding its departments (there should be 3 as listed on the website instead of 5). I drafted a sandbox here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:N123q/sandbox

I am wondering if you can take a look and let me know if the format is correct. Thank you so much! 24.48.74.189 (talk) 15:34, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the specific details and draft article - both are very helpful!

Would you be okay if we moved this discussion to the article's Talk page? That would make it easier for other editors - now and in the future - to find and participate in the discussion. ElKevbo (talk) 17:50, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Sounds good to me! Thank you N123q (talk) 17:58, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Here are my thoughts on each of the items you've raised:

1. For articles about US colleges and universities, we rarely include "non-profit" in the lede. The vast majority of US colleges and universities are non-profit so we usually assume that's the case and indicate when it's not. "Serving the community for 114 years" also doesn't seem to be neutral or necessary.
2. The lede should include the founding date of the institution and some relevant details. I might not word it the way that you have but I have no substantive objections to adding or including it in the lede.
3. We rarely include ranking information in the lede of an article. In fact, there has been substantial, difficult discussion about this point - the most recent, authoritative discussion is at WP:HIGHEREDREP. (I am also highly skeptical that Intelligent.com is a respected ranking source.)
4. Updates and corrections to the institution's history and organization in the body of the article would be most welcome. However, the information needs to be supported by reliable sources.

ElKevbo (talk) 18:17, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much! N123q (talk) 13:06, 18 July 2023 (UTC)