Talk:Santander UK/Archive 1

Archive 1

Leicester Permanent Benefit/Building Society

Before I revert the edit back to Leicester Permanent Benefit Society I'll list the references...

• "Santander scraps UK bank brands". BBC News. 27 May 2009. Retrieved 28 January 2010.
• "General Information". Alliance & Leicester Group. Retrieved 30 January 2010.
• "The history of Santander in the UK". Santander. Retrieved 30 January 2010.

The last of these also states: "Abbey’s roots date back to 1849, when the National Freehold Land and Building Society [wrong] was established. In 1944, it merged with the Abbey National Building Society [wrong] to form Abbey National." Chrisieboy (talk) 13:15, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

I believe these are more conclusive than the "more reliable" reference provided

• Extract from Building Societies Yearbook 2007/8 (pp.131, 126 and 148) Building Societies Association (retrieved 29 January 2010)

which cites nothing before 1882.

I do not dispute that by the time of the mergers it was called Leicester Permanent Building Society, it was so called by the time it opened its doors in 1853, but when it was founded in 1852 it was the Leicester Permanent Benefit Society.

• "History". Alliance and Leicester. Retrieved 30 January 2010.

Bazj (talk) 11:55, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

If you scroll down to the bottom of that page: "John Henry Davies proposed the formation of the Leicester Permanent Benefit Society before a public meeting" and "the Leicester Permanent Building Society became operational in January [1853]." Chrisieboy (talk) 13:12, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Exactly! It was founded in 1852 as the Leicester Permanent Benefit Society. It started trading in 1853 as the Leicester Permanent Building Society.

The references you've added refer to the society after it had started trading, not before.

I'll add some wording which, I hope, will satisfy us both. Regards, Bazj (talk) 14:53, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

"Largest"?

Just wondering about where it says in the last paragraph that Santander is Europe's largest bank by market capitalisation.

According to corporateinformation.com (who they?), the capitalisation of Santander is about €70,533m, whereas HSBC is $189,285m. Surely that makes HSBC bigger? I haven't bothered looking up any of the others either. 92.21.143.70 (talk) 20:56, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

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Requested Move

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The result of the move request was: Not Done. - "UK" is the name so therefore doesn't need brackets. –Davey2010^Talk 23:51, 12 June 2016 (UTC) –Davey2010^Talk 23:51, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

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• Santander UK → Santander (UK) – It has to be in brackets to match other articles like Spike (UK), Freeview (UK) and Channel 5 (UK). 2A02:C7D:564B:D300:6C7C:4E35:4CE5:66F2 (talk) 08:21, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose – Brackets are not needed because the actual name of the company is Santander UK, i.e. "UK" is not being used as parenthetical disambiguation here. RGloucester — ☎ 16:29, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
• Yea, Oppose: the "UK" is part of the company name. DaltonCastle (talk) 21:34, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose - I chose the name for the article for the same reason RGloucester and DaltonCastle state. Cloudbound (talk) 10:08, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

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Santander UK plc manages its affairs autonomously, with its own local [sic] management team, responsible solely [sic] for its performance.

This reads like corporate PR. Also, in as far as the UK bank is 100% owned by the Spanish bank, are we really to believe that there is no responsibility to the parent-company? Do they never speak?