Talk:Scarborough, North Yorkshire

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Main Photograph

I'm not happy with this picture at the top - it just doesn't say 'Scarborough' to me... I think we need the iconic view of the castle on the headland... Flarpster (talk) 23:32, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Views of Scarborough we have are in Commons:Category:Views of Scarborough, North Yorkshire. Other images would be in the parent category, but would be closer views of specific things in Scarborough. Care to select one? Keith D (talk) 00:40, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Notable people

(presented for discussion)
My attention was drawn to the present list by the presence of a redlinked entertainer—not of the slightest interest to most of the English-speaking world. Then I noticed the names of other pop singers, radio and TV presenters and other quite minor personages who are separately and adequately linked to Scarborough by the relevant template created for the purpose. My argument is that the criterion of notability for inclusion should extend beyond mere local fame and be verified by a broad and weighty swag of citations in the linked article. Further, the details in the linked article do not need to be duplicated here in the form of a list of, movies, TV series, footballing achievements, etc. Furthermore, I question the arbitrary limitation of this section to those born in Scarborough, which has unconscionably excluded Alan Ayckbourn. Subject, of course, to normal consensus, my proposed edits will result in the following:

For a fuller list, see Category:People from Scarborough, North Yorkshire.

• Robert de Scardeburgh (died c.1351), Lord Chief Justice of Ireland.
• Frederic Leighton, 1st Baron Leighton (1830–1896), painter and sculptor.
• Sir Edward James Harland, 1st Baronet (1831–1895), shipbuilder and politician, co-founder of Harland and Wolff.
• The Sitwells, (b. late 1800s), artistic, musical and literary family.
• Charles Laughton (1899–1962), actor, screenwriter, film producer and director.
• John Hick (1922-2012), philosopher of religion.
• Alan Ayckbourn (b. 1939), playwright
• Susan Hill (b. 1942), novelist
  
• Ben Kingsley (b. 1943), Oscar-winning actor, born at Snainton.
• Penelope Wilton (b. 1946), actress.

Bjenks (talk) 04:25, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Pindar

I've removed the following uncited content: The printing industry is well represented in the town. Pindar, which also owns the AlphaGraphics chain, is a Scarborough-born company with an international profile. My ground for this is the article Alphagraphics which refers to a bankrupt Pindar group, apparently based in Salt Lake City, Utah! Bjenks (talk) 05:10, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

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Lifeboat

There's no mention of the lifeboat station, which was in the news today (albeit The Daily Mail). Tony Holkham (Talk) 16:12, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

There is a BBC article on new lifeboat here from November 2016. Keith D (talk) 22:50, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Media section

I have readded accurately sourced information that had been (sloppily) deleted from the Media section. I am of the belief that the user who edited this section may have some connection to Radio Scarborough, hence the deletion of information concerning Coast & County Radio (a DAB station), but the retention of the positive information concerning Radio Scarborough (an online-only "station" that was fined for pirate broadcasting in 2017). 84.92.90.18 (talk) 16:02, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Osterode am Harz

Is Osterode no longer twinned with Scarborough? But is now twinned with Whitby? I can't find anything to state these 'facts', other than recent Wiki updates? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nix D (talk • contribs) 17:33, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Hmm, yes, looks a mess. There is a mention here but it's hardly a detailed RS. On the German wiki page neither W nor S is listed, though there is discussion about Scarborough from almost 10 years ago here (sorry, I have forgotten how to do interlanguage wikilinks!). On the En wiki page we have Whitby listed at: Osterode am Harz#Twinned towns but there is no source. I would be quite tempted to mark every ref as needing a cite, give it a fortnight then delete it if nothing turns up. I have past experience on twinned towns on WP and it can be a royal pain if it has not been thoroughly documented – and sometimes it wasn't! Sorry to be gloomy but hope this helps ... I also hope someone knows much more than me about this and can sort it properly ... cheers DBaK (talk) 19:10, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

PS it looks like we should probably ask FromCzech to advise as they are clearly active in this field and probably Know Stuff! FromCzech, can you help out here ... what reliable sources do people use for this? Cheers DBaK (talk) 19:18, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for asking. It is clear that Osterode is not twinned with Whitby. The twinning section of Scarborough's official website is last edited in 2012 and Osterode is listed, however the twinning section of Osterode's official website does not list Scarborough (anymore), and the last update is from 10 December 2020. It would be really strange if the link still existed, but there would be no mention of it on Osterode's website, especially when the websites of German cities are the most accurate in this regard. The Friends of Scarborough profile is last updated on 14 June 2019. I also found this official response of Scarborough which indicates that the link still exists, but sleeps. In my opinion it can be a situation where Scarborough considers Osterode a twin, but not vice versa, which would also mean that it shouldn't be on Scarborough's wiki page.

And one important thing in the end – as stated in the official source, it is Borough of Scarborough who is/was twinned with Osterode, not the town of Scarborough. FromCzech (talk) 08:18, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks FromCzech for this. It looks like the twinning situation is now pretty stable from edits around then plus the removal of Whitby from Osterode. Good point re Scarborough the borough vs. the place – my association with the area is I suspect from further back than that so I often forget that we have both forms to consider. Thanks again, best wishes to all, DBaK (talk) 12:54, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Population Age

Information about the town's demographics seems incorrect. Notably, approximately 27% of the town is over 65, according to the 2021 census - not 7.5% over 60, as claimed. 92.3.39.6 (talk) 14:45, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

The section is based on 2011 census figures. Keith D (talk) 19:45, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Osterode am Harz

When did Scarborough cease to be twinned with this town? Scarborough is still listed on Osterode's page. -- Nix D 15:45, 26 October 2024

Find a reliable source and add it back. --10mmsocket (talk) 16:18, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Scarborough Market Hall and Vaults

Did there used to be an individual page for the Market Hall? Or has it been removed? (talk)

Cannot spot any page like that in the logs. Keith D (talk) 12:50, 23 November 2024 (UTC)