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Scott stapp Controverises
editWhy was Scott stapp controversies removed? All the information contained on the page was correct and no bias was written against him, mearly the facts being presented.
- I'm not sure why it was removed but i agree with you. I'll think i'll add it back if someone can't give a good reason for removing the info instead of simply merging it. --M vopni 00:18, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the link to the forty second video. It is not to be restored pending further legal action. Danny 16:01, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
what has your life been like and some the the experiances that you have been through
- Who wrote this article, his publicist or his mom? No mention of the guy being drunk as hell at concerts or on blow? How about the show where fans DEMANDED THEIR MONEY BACK because Stapp was so tore up that he could barely remember the words? I call re-write! -HX
There seems to be a great deal of hearsay information and/or gossip in this section unsupported by any citation(s)/link(s). Much of it should be assessed for removal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelgamer (talk • contribs) 23:31, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
- I didn't delete the section, but, the only real controversy is that Scott Stapp attracted an audience that usually avoided the rock scene, and this has apparently caused a major problem for those listeners being introduced to rock ( because they thought he stood against what they didn't like about it ), and the veteran elitists ( because they felt he was tainting the genre ). He really didn't do anything that other artists haven't done, yet he gets a "controversy" section while Britney Spears, of all people (who has dipped out on shows), doesn't get one. I mean, controversies aside, Scott Stapp, as a single man, managed to relatively quickly produce 3 albums each with hit songs that even extremely successful artists had to compete with. And whenever he gets a bit of credit, its because christian buddies are backing him up. I'm not even religious and its plain to me that he goes under-appreciated. Neveos (talk) 10:23, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
POV
editThis article is not near wikipedia standards. Im going to put the POV banner and ive already placed a Wikify Banner on here. This article sounds more like a biography, and it is not near the format and way we need to keep wikipedia running. I dont believe anyone who reads this article as their sole source on this person would have a fair and neutral view of them. This is why we need to keep wikipedia neutral. This is far from it. Itll be hard to salvage the information out of it, and hopefully somebody can help me do that. -PlasticMan, 9/13/05
no problem. the stuff was removed.--Alhutch 23:50, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
I don't think it was removed. This article is a complete disgrace - it reads like a biography written by a fan, mixing fact and legend in a tone that would be unfitting of a high school essay, let alone an encyclopaedia. --83.70.242.32 (talk) 18:09, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
FSU
editJust recently somebody reverted an edit about Stapp attending FSU. But according to Yahoo! Music, Stapp did attend FSU. "Stapp had been studying law at Florida State University, but eventually dropped out to pursue music, a decision that led to conflict with his anti-rock & roll parents."Creed Biography on Yahoo! Music ONEder Boy 02:43, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
- This page [1] indicates he dropped out of FSU and got kicked out of Lee. This page [2] mentions only FSU as does this [3]. There are many more pages out there stating he attending FSU before dropping out. I don't see why it should be removed from the article. Heezy 20:39, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- He's even listed as an alumni on the FSU page. ONEder Boy 03:51, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
You Know... That Story
editShouldn't this have some mention of that incident where someone got his mobile phone number and his sister drove him to some dive so he could pickup and the girl with the mobile phone and everyone else in the bar had a big laugh at him and his wifebeater?
- I agree, the Denny's story should be included in his bio, it was notable enough and some mainstream sites picked up the story too. Also, there should be some mention of that concert in chigaco ( at least i think it was chicago) where Stapp was too drunk he couldn't even sing 1 song and the fans sued to try and get a refund from Creed after the show was cancelled. --M vopni 02:55, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
What happened to the 311 fight
editIt should be on this page and not on the Creed (band) page for the sollo fact that it was a fight between Scott Stapp and 311 and not a fight between Creed and 311
Album Sales
edit"However, these standards are very high, as "disappointing" sales in contrast to Creed is a record that has been certified Double Platinum."
This line implies that his album went double platinum. I'm not sure what it sold but if the highest it got on the chart was #19, I'm betting it didn't. Does anybody know how much it actually sold? --M vopni 00:30, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Picture
editWhy is there a picture of Charles Barkley with Stapp's name under it?219.199.100.195 14:42, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- User:ThR enody being a funny vandal (not) Glen 09:35, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
That was pretty much hilarious, sry2say. -- Robotronical
Clean up
editI was wondering if this page needs a clean up tag. This page seems kind of ehh.... compared to other pages on Wiki.
I'm no dedicated Scott Stapp historian or anything but the statement early in the article 'his father was a tyrant' may need revision. Unless that was his actual occupation...which I doubt. KingNothing63 (talk) 05:07, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Birth name and other things
editI could have sworn this page previously stated that Scott Alan Stapp was NOT his birth name, that his name was Anthony Scott Flippen, hi stepfather adopted him and he took the last name and changed his first and middle names so his initials wouldn't be ASS. This was on the page for a very long time. Also, there's other information on his early life that is missing. Was it really unsourced on the page so long that it was later removed...? CallidoraBlack (talk) 18:46, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Family section
editrather than put a [cite] tag on the last sentence in the family section regarding subject's friendship with a non-family member, I'm just going to remove it. Before you put it back, (a) CITE A SOURCE. NO ORIGINAL MATERIAL. and (b) be sure to add how the coach is related to subject. 75.88.23.101 (talk) 15:04, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Prolific songwriting duo
edit"Tremonti and Stapp have been collectively recognized as one of the most prolific songwriting teams in all of rock music". By whom, Stapp's mum? By the little girls who write for MTV and clearly need a dictionary? That is hilariously inaccurate. Creed have one album. One. This is as far from a prolific body of work as it gets. Nobody with an entry-level knowledge of music will be able to read that and contain their laughter. This is not doing wiki's reputation any favours. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.91.9.144 (talk) 04:53, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- Creed has four albums. 63.248.26.218 (talk) 21:09, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
- Exactly. Shows how much you know. Besides, you didn't even sign your comment! TJD2 (talk) 18:46, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
- I'm calling BS as well, as I did not interpret the MTV bio as saying that. 108.248.24.226 (talk) 20:38, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
- Exactly. Shows how much you know. Besides, you didn't even sign your comment! TJD2 (talk) 18:46, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
legal issues
edithttp://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1517207/intoxicated-scott-stapp-sparks-melee-with-311.jhtml
should this be included? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.101.12.20 (talk) 15:21, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
68th Greatest Metal Singer?
editIf his enumeration was the 68th greatest Bollywood film it might be easier to take that number with a straight face. While I don't doubt there have been tens or hundreds of thousands of singers who have performed music in the metal genre, I'd be somewhat surprised if the total number of metal bands that have released professional albums is as high as 1500, a little less than one new metal band per week since Iron Maiden released "The Number of the Beast". The fact that the cited source could cobble together a list of 100 notable metal singers is impressive, but does not really indicate that all of the 100 were of high or even fair quality.
As it stands the reference looks like an attempt by Stapp's agent to create a false impression of high critical regard in people with poor reading comprehension and math skill. While the information is strictly correct, I'd suggest it runs afoul of NPOV since people favorable to Stapp will see it as praise and people unfavorable to him will see it as a subtle insult.
98.225.182.131 (talk) 22:28, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
- This is not a forum. Your opinions don't belong here. It's a properly cited source.--98.209.42.117 (talk) 07:31, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
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Legal troubles & Art of Anarchy
editI recently added the Art of Anarchy-related lawsuit (2018) to the Legal Troubles section but today realized it was already mentioned under Art of Anarchy: 2016 - Present. Should it be under both sections? One section? Which one? I look forward to improving my contributions to Wikipedia. Dogscatsbirds (talk) 19:21, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Urinating incident
editNo mention of his public urination at a publicist's dinner? This was reported on NPR, I believe, and also on another national talk-radio show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6080:21F0:6140:5D8:54E5:408B:60EC (talk) 13:06, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Legal Troubles "[sic]"
editThe usage of "[sic]" within the paragraph under Legal Troubles beginning "In 2015..." is incorrect, as the spelling and usage of the phrase "...a big sigh..." are both correct. 2601:CD:4000:610:9C28:4627:69E5:8532 (talk) 21:17, 25 March 2024 (UTC)