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Too specific, POV, not encyclopedic. JoaoRicardo 06:22, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Easily encyclopedic, especially given Wikipedia is not paper. We have plenty of prominent sports commentators and journalists in Wikipedia, and leading personalities in Scottish rugby journalism should certainly meet Wikipedia:Criteria for inclusion of biographies. Certainly an article briefly discussing them together in context is entirely Wikipedian. The wording "The undisputed King" sounds POV, but that's not reason for deletion. The awkward title is a reason to move, and the granularity a potential reason to merge, but where? Keep the information. Samaritan 06:33, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Cleanup and Keep as another "list of ...". Uncle G 15:01, 2005 Jan 15 (UTC)
- Keep - David Gerard 15:27, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Too specific? That has got to be the dumbest deletion justification in history. This is an encyclopedia. It's supposed to be specific. Keep, but rename as List of Scottish rugby commentators and journalists.--Centauri 23:11, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, are rugby commentators and journalists really that notable? I don't think so. PS. I live in a rugby playing country too. Megan1967 01:35, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. As a resident of the same country, I consider that rugby commentators are significant enough especially as most become commentators after notable playing careers. Capitalistroadster 04:52, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. -- Jmabel | Talk 19:34, Jan 17, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep I was going to add another rugby writer - David Ferguson the chief rugby writer of the Scotsman newspaper - when I discovered this vfd page. I suppose "undisputed King" is a POV, but if you ask any rugby fan old enough to remember his commentaries, Bill McLaren was second to none as a TV commentator on world rugby. He has now retired, so I suppose "formerly the King" might be more appropriate. If that is also too strong then how about "the most famous" or something like that? Anyway, I hope the page stays in some form or other. It was originally part of Scotland national rugby union team by the way, but I thought that was getting rather long and unweildy so I moved it. --Historian 03:03, Jan 18, 2005 (UTC)
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