Talk:Secret Story (French TV series) season 1

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Latest comment: 16 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

How about making separate articles for series 1 and 2 just like other version of Big Brother (UK, US, Australia) who has individual article for each season? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moon Gin (talk • contribs) 14:02, 29 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

Moon Gin —Preceding comment was added at 14:07, 29 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

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Latest comment: 16 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I have restored the following content that was removed by Tony Sidaway.

Content/Section	Why content was removed	Restored/Reason
Contestants	Over-detailed	Restored; See WP:BIGBRO#Housemates
Nominations and Evictions	Over-detailed	Restored; See WP:BIGBRO#Nominations table
Chamber of Secrets	Original Research; Modified	No change, left modified version by Tony Sidaway
The Secrets	Over-detailed	Restored; the secrets were an important part of the show as the show was based around the secrets.
Criticism and controversy	Unsourced	Just don't delete just place {{Citation needed}}.

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Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

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Requested move 21 June 2018

Latest comment: 6 years ago7 comments6 people in discussion

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Moved as proposed. bd2412 T 17:30, 3 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

– I could not find sources to support that each season was individually numbered by the broadcaster or the production company for this edition. In an effort to align the naming convention guidelines of WP:BIGBRO with the established guidelines of WP:NCTV I'm proposing we move the individual season articles to the names suggested. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 20:00, 21 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

Support, as per nom. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:08, 22 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
Support as long as the title really is Secret Story and not Big Brother France (or something in French, with English-language sources actually more commonly using the French name). This "Title_here x (Country_name_here)" stuff is just aberrant. We don't do that with any articles titles about anything, meanwhile we have a stable and site-wide TV convention of "Title_here (season X)", from which there is no reason to diverge in this case. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 06:18, 22 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
Support per WP:NCTV. Seems sources in English call it Secret Story. --Gonnym (talk) 13:54, 22 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
- After being informed on a different move of not using the correct adjective, I've noticed we didn't use the correct one here either. This should be changed to Secret Story (French season 1) etc (as used in the series one - Secret Story (French TV series)). --Gonnym (talk) 14:06, 28 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
Neutral, but CREATE REDIRECTS no matter what happens. Paintspot Infez (talk) 18:20, 23 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

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Requested move 3 July 2018

Latest comment: 6 years ago11 comments8 people in discussion

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The result of the move request was: consensus to move the pages as proposed at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 05:58, 26 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

– The previous move was not completed with the correct WP:NCTV naming convention. NCTV says to Prefix the country of broadcast ( adjective), which in this case would be French instead of France (which is similar to Big Brother (French TV series)). Gonnym (talk) 21:01, 3 July 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 02:51, 13 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Gonnym: Same question – are there other examples that use "French season [x]"?... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:36, 4 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Oppose For me this seems like an issue that needs to be discussed at WP:NCTV since this issue has also appeared at the Australian & Danish RMs. When I proposed these RMs I looked at various examples and the adjective was not used for season articles but for the parent articles. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 00:5c5, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Alucard 16, would you like to revisit this in light of the change you made at the Denmark/Danish RM? Dekimasuよ! 17:50, 25 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Support not sure why it would matter since all but one other is support but sure. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 21:38, 25 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Support - this is covered under WP:TVSEASON which shows that we use the same adjectival method for season article disambiguation as used for their main series article. -- Netoholic @ 17:36, 7 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
Support as nominator. Noticed I forgot. --Gonnym (talk) 22:48, 11 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
Relisting comment: Discuss at Talk:Big Brother (Australia season 1)#Discussion. Andrewa (talk) 02:51, 13 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
Oppose? per User:Alucard 16 - I'm honestly not sure this is a quick and easy move. As mentioned by Alucard, "WP:NCTV (as the guidance for editors) is not clear that the adjective should be applied to season articles like its parent series". As mentioned in the Denmark discussion, other examples include "X Factor (Denmark season 8) and Idols (Denmark season 1)"; or in the Argentina discussion, examples like "Bailando por un Sueño (Argentina season 1)". As mentioned by User:IJBall in the Australia discussion, "there are numerous current examples of "Australia season [x]" in use – e.g. The Voice (Australia season 7), The Bachelor (Australia season 2), etc. So this probably requires a wider discussion on the question." Paintspot Infez (talk) 18:17, 13 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
The fact that some titles don't yet comply with the guideline is not a rationale to make fewer of them comply with the guideline. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 21:59, 13 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
Support per WP:TVSEASON and WP:CONSISTENCY, even if we need to do more consistency work with regard to old articles like The Bachelor (Australia season 2), etc. WP:There is no deadline. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 21:59, 13 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

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