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Address all copyright violations in the article with immediate effectnancy 08:04, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Complete expansion requests and write lead (currently doing) --Ratio Decidendi (talk) 21:34, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
I shall be expanding the article and adding a number of source over the next few day.--Ratio:Decidendi·[ Talk ] 22:13, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
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Latest comment: 13 years ago10 comments2 people in discussion
I don't think these sections sit well with an article which is specifically entitled "Sentencing in England and Wales". I suggest one sentence to explain each concept would be fine without the philosophical input which would be better suited to a separate article entitled "The Theory of Sentencing in Criminal Courts". Does anyone have a view? Shaibalahmar (talk) 07:14, 13 August 2011 (UTC)Reply
I probably would have agreed with you until the passage of the Criminal Justice Act 2003, as Judges and Magistrates following the Act are now bound to consider the aims of scenting. Furthermore, the major textbooks on the English Legal System tend to devote at least 2 - 4 page on aims of sentencing when it could be a lot more. Also the the theories include specific England and Wales related examples. --Ratio:Decidendi·[ Talk ]10:55, 13 August 2011 (UTC)Reply
That wasn't really my point. I just don't think the article should go off on a philosophical (e.g. Kant, Bentham) or political (Hague) tangent when the principles of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 are already pretty clear. Going back to Hansard for the debates on the Act should give an indication of what was going through the minds of parliamentarians when they discussed those principles, and there will be pre CJA case law to show how these principles developed. Shaibalahmar (talk) 11:41, 13 August 2011 (UTC)Reply
I am suggesting the sections I mentioned earlier be removed and be replaced by a shorter section relating the development of the sentencing principles through a summary of the case law. This will be more relevant to the topic - mention Kant to a sentencer and they will give you a blank stare :) Shaibalahmar (talk) 13:29, 13 August 2011 (UTC)Reply
Ok I support shortening the aims section and moving material to "The Theory of Sentencing in Criminal Courts". However, shouldn't the title of the article mention England and Wales, how about, "Aims of sentencing in England and Wales" or "Theories of criminal sentencing in England and Wales". What do you think? --Ratio:Decidendi·[ Talk ]16:46, 13 August 2011 (UTC)Reply
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A great deal of this article appears to consist of unattributed cut and pastes from other sources, mainly other Wikipedia articles. May I remind editors of this article that whilst all Wikipedia content is licensed CC-By_SA, the terms of that license require attribution otherwise it must be considered to be a copyright violation. I would expect as editors interested in legal matters that you will understand the urgency of addressing the situation and equally understand why, if this is not addressed immediately, the article will be removed. Kind regards, nancy05:28, 14 August 2011 (UTC)Reply
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I suggest that this photo is deleted because I don't think it is appropriate (or revelant) to a serious article about sentencing in England and Wales. Does anyone else have a view? Shaibalahmar (talk) 06:15, 22 August 2011 (UTC)Reply