Talk:Shanghai maglev train
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editCan two cars pass each other while traveling in opposite directions, or is there only one car moving on the tracks at any given time? AxelBoldt 05:38, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- One of the pictures shows 2 tracks. Also if you search Youtube for videos of this, you will see it passes just like any other train passing. --Voidvector 01:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
- The situation of two cars at top speed in opposite direction was tested. Cars have passed each others in a relative speed of somewhat 800km/h and there were no problems.
- I've been on the train and yes the trains pass each other. There is a slight shudder through the train as they pass each other. A tiny disturbance on an otherwise completely smooth journey —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.25.176.102 (talk) 00:38, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Mistake
editThe article says "trill factor" under the Background section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.45.191.224 (talk) 05:16, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
Who made the Shangai Maglev ?
According to The Independant, which is reputed to do good journalism (something rare in the UK), the Maglev was made by Siemens and any engineer will recognize the German design. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/germans-win-bid-to-build-chinas-futuristic-rail-link-703123.html
However, sometime ago, in the news, I have found the information that the project was completed not by Siemens which had sold the technology, but Bombardier Transport. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.41.130 (talk) 15:42, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Profitability? Costs? Losses?
editWhy is there no financial information about the profitability (or loss) of this? E.g., the Linimo article points out that: "the line lost over ¥3 billion in 2006. While ridership gradually increased to 16,500 ppd in 2008, the line still made a financial loss of ¥2.1 billion in FY 2009." If the Chinese government doesn't publish this info, surely some reliable source must have made some ballpark guestimates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benefac (talk • contribs) 09:02, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
Lowercase vs. uppercase for maglev train in article title
edit@Dicklyon: Was there any discussion or consensus on the moving of this article? I'm not sure I agree with the lowercase use here. Don't see any relevant discussion in the RfC thread. We're not dealing with a generic descriptor like line or station,Maglev is short for "Magnetic Levitation" and I would argue Maglev is definitely part of the proper name. Train could be debatable but I definitely did not see a discussion relating to whether we would decapitalize or capitalize train. This also applies to Shanghai–Kowloon Through Train, Beijing–Kowloon through train, Guangzhou–Kowloon Through Train, one of which you decapitalized but you missed the other two, creating more inconsistency. May I ask that you stop making these changes without some kind of consensus for each specific case? I do understand the need to follow Wikipedia guidelines on uppercase/lowercase, but it is not as clear cut here. This is not the same case as line or railway station, which was discussed. Even in those cases, I don't think we've come to a complete agreement given the opposition that has been voiced in the RfC. Heights(Want to talk?) 04:07, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
- No specific discussion on this one, but it's not consistently capped in sources so MOS:CAPS suggests we default to lowercase. Dicklyon (talk) 04:16, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
- I will weakly support this but I would like to point out MOS:CAPS suggests substantial majority of cases, thus not requiring 100% compliance. I feel it is a bit of a stretch to say, for example, here's a few mentions in some book which glance at this subject briefly that did not capitalize, therefore we default to lowercase. I will agree here because I see Shanghai Daily seems to use the lowercase maglev train in its reporting, and this source probably carries some weight in this subject area. I would like to see more discussion next time before unilateral page moves on cases, such as this one, where there is a difference from the others that have been subject to discussion such as line, and railway station. In your user page you mention I was real careful to make sure consensus was firmly on the side of these moves before jumping in. Not a jab at you or anything, just wanted to point out that as we both know, this subject can get contentious so I would prefer to see more discussion and consensus over less discussion and individual judgment being made when it comes to interpretations of policies. Please don't take offense to this, I appreciate this work you've done in terms of following guidelines, it's just I feel like this case I needed to bring up as it wasn't discussed. In addition I would support the other through train articles being decapitalized as well, but maybe they require separate discussion. Thanks. Heights(Want to talk?) 04:39, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
- I don't think it makes sense to have extensive discussions of individual cases that nobody is challenging. The bit about "consensus was firmly on the side of these moves" was about large groups of moves, not individual cases that might be seen as outliers. Anyway, I appreciate your help and attention, and am happy to discuss this one if it's challenged, by you or anyone. Dicklyon (talk) 06:20, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
- I will weakly support this but I would like to point out MOS:CAPS suggests substantial majority of cases, thus not requiring 100% compliance. I feel it is a bit of a stretch to say, for example, here's a few mentions in some book which glance at this subject briefly that did not capitalize, therefore we default to lowercase. I will agree here because I see Shanghai Daily seems to use the lowercase maglev train in its reporting, and this source probably carries some weight in this subject area. I would like to see more discussion next time before unilateral page moves on cases, such as this one, where there is a difference from the others that have been subject to discussion such as line, and railway station. In your user page you mention I was real careful to make sure consensus was firmly on the side of these moves before jumping in. Not a jab at you or anything, just wanted to point out that as we both know, this subject can get contentious so I would prefer to see more discussion and consensus over less discussion and individual judgment being made when it comes to interpretations of policies. Please don't take offense to this, I appreciate this work you've done in terms of following guidelines, it's just I feel like this case I needed to bring up as it wasn't discussed. In addition I would support the other through train articles being decapitalized as well, but maybe they require separate discussion. Thanks. Heights(Want to talk?) 04:39, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
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How does the thing work
editIs it electro magnets, natural magnets, what? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.128.48.6 (talk) 16:48, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
Jack Torr's video, which shows a clip of the train moving at 431 km/h
editI have undone a recent edit which cited Jack Torr's December 2023 video "Is CHINA what you really think? (first day in China) 🇨🇳" as "video evidence" that the train is once again running at speeds of 431 km/h. In the video a short clip is played which is implied to show the train running at 431 km/h. However, this clip is actually taken from a video uploaded to Youtube in 2018 by a different user. When Jack rides the train in the video, it only reaches 300 km/h. The video that Jack misrepresented is titled Shanghai Maglev Full Ride with Speedo - 4K, and the section used is from 3:45 to 3:55.
This is why Youtube videos make crap sources. Chappjo (talk) 12:30, 18 January 2024 (UTC)