Talk:DRAM (musician)

Orphaned references in D.R.A.M.

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of D.R.A.M.'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "MC":

• From Coloring Book (mixtape): "Reviews for Coloring Book [Mixtape] by Chance the Rapper". Metacritic. Retrieved May 18, 2016.
• From Erykah Badu discography: "Canadian certifications – Erykah Badu". Music Canada. Retrieved December 26, 2015.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 01:41, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 1 December 2017

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The result of the move request was: moved as proposed. In addition, D.R.A.M. is again redirected to dynamic random-access memory. (closed by page mover) Bradv 13:44, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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D.R.A.M. → DRAM (rapper) – According to this source, the artist wants to be known as DRAM, with no periods. His website and Twitter account have his name as DRAM, not as D.R.A.M. with periods. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 10:30, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

• Support. Fine to use DRAM (artist) or DRAM (rapper), but DRAM sees extreme use as dynamic random-access memory. --Zac67 (talk) 17:33, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

@Zac67: I think "rapper" makes more sense than "artist" because he is a rapper after all. But he do sings most of his songs, probably "artist" is better. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 12:06, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

• Move to DRAM (rapper) and redirect D.R.A.M. back to dynamic random-access memory where it would have gone prior to the rapper's article being created 29 June 2016. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:43, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
• Agreed with In ictu oculi. I considered "(artist)" but singer/songwriter is implicit in "rapper" (how many rappers only do cover versions and not their own material? how many never sing, and only, strictly, rap and nothing else?). And he appears to not be notable at all as an actor. There's nothing in his bio here that suggest he is one other than the bare word "actor" in the lead, so it should probably be removed until he actually has sourceable acting credits. Being on The Tonight Show is not acting, it's being an interviewee and/or musical guest.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ<  12:10, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
• Support - In addition to the redirect proposed by In ictu oculi._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 12:03, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
• Support - I believe artist is a better term than just rapper also considering he sings and produces music. Gurdijak (talk) 20:27, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

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Requested move 8 August 2018

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The result of the move request was: Moved to DRAM (musician)  — Amakuru (talk) 17:17, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

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DRAM (rapper) → DRAM (artist) – I think the page should be moved to "DRAM (artist)" because "rapper" is too specific and seems to ignore other aspects of his music (particularly his newer releases). In fact, his music has recently been described as soul and R&B. Several sources also refer to him as an "artist" largely because "rapper" is no long an accurate, all-encompassing descriptor. So, while it is true that DRAM is a rapper, it's certainly not all he is. In order to reflect that reality, I think the page should be moved to "DRAM (artist)". Gargleafg (talk) 02:36, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

• Strong oppose we use (artist) for painters not rappers. BTW is the rapper pronounced Dee-er-ay-em, or Dram? In ictu oculi (talk) 06:55, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

• The disambiguator "(musician)" would appear to be possible, however. Dekimasuよ! 18:33, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
• In ictu oculi, it appears to be announced like the "dram" in "drama". So yes, Dram (musician) is also possible, though there is an acronym involved. Dekimasuよ! 10:15, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

  DRAM is an acronym for Does Real Ass Music and should remain in allcaps per WP:ACRONYM. The editor whose username is Z0 11:10, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

• Support move to DRAM (musician) per WP:MUSICDAB which recommends the use of musician as a disambiguator for persons who have multiple roles in their musical career. The editor whose username is Z0 19:25, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

• "Musician" works. I suggested "DRAM (artist)" because it was proposed as a disambiguator when the page was first moved in December 2017. Also, "artist" is used to describe musicians of all varieties on Wikipedia (this list and this one are good examples). Either way, "musician" or "artist" is more accurate than "rapper." Gargleafg (talk) 03:46, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

• Support DRAM (musician) per the discussion above. Dekimasuよ! 20:12, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
• Support DRAM (musician) - (artist) is not at all listed in WP:MUSICDAB, we don't make up disambiguators for this. However, (musician), is listed for the same purpose of this move, to not restrict it to rapping or other specific disambiguators Lazz_R 14:28, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

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Stage name change

As he has changed his stage name to that of his given first name, Shelley, will the name of article be changed to his current stage name? As of right now, the article name still is DRAM. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hechosinutiles (talk • contribs) 23:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 30 April 2021

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) -- Calidum 17:32, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

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DRAM (musician) → Shelley FKA DRAM – Multiple sources including Pitchfork, HipHopDX, NPR, and XXL called him as Shelley FKA DRAM. Even at iTunes and Spotify has his name credited as this. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 07:29, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

I moved this page ages ago. I don't really understand why any discussion is needed when he is using his new name on every platform...Benarnold98 (talk) 12:43, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

@Benarnold98: Did you even see the previous discussions at the talk page? You need to start a discussion or request at WP:RMT first, you can't just move a page without permission, it can be moved only by an administrator per WP:MOVE. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 14:09, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

• Support - Agreed with the initial argument as he released music and was credited under the name Shelley FKA DRAM. Androptrnt (talk) 11:53, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
• Support - All his music is credited under his new name. Benarnold98 (talk) 11:52, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

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Requested move 30 September 2022

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 14:09, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

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Shelley FKA DRAM → DRAM (musician) – He's changed his name back per announcements of his upcoming album ([1][2][3]) QuietHere (talk) 00:33, 30 September 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 06:02, 9 October 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. ‡ Night Watch ω (talk) 18:01, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support. 162 etc. (talk) 18:46, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

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