Talk:Shinjuku

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Latest comment: 9 years ago by 61.215.99.250 in topic outdated info; unsourced claims

Manga College?

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I was reading that manga-ka (I think Rumiko Takahashi was one) went to a sort of "manga college" in Shinjuku. I'm PRETTY sure it is called Koike Kazuo Juku. The address is:

Koike Kazuo Juku
Tohoku Shinsha Shinjuku Biru
Shinjuku 1-18-14
Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo-to, Nippon
Thanks!! --MasterPayne22 21:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
His own web site refers to "Koike Kazuo Gekigason-juku" Fg2 22:13, 25 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

There's a photo on the Shinjuku page called "view of Kabukicho at night" but it looks like a view of Koshukaido at night DDD DDD 03:52, 4 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Sinzyuku = 525 google hits, sufficient enough for it to stay. WhisperToMe 03:21, 19 May 2004 (UTC)Reply

No, it's redundant and pointless, and Shinjuku is the standard English spelling and the romanization used by the Japanese themselves, quite apart from the rules of Kunreishiki. "Sinzyuku" is incorrect. Also, it's standard practice in Wikipedia not to use abbreviations like "lit.". Exploding Boy 14:57, May 19, 2004 (UTC)
SUSTAINED! Sekicho 12:52, May 20, 2004 (UTC)
Exploding Boy obviously knows better than the
japanese themselves, right? -- Anonymous
Uh...well, when the Japanese use the same thing and it can be easily proven, he's obviously onto something. Go to Tokyo sometime, take any subway to Shinjuku and it'll be romanticised as such, alongisde kanji as well.
I think you mean 'romanised'. "Shinjuku" is the overwhelming consensus among those who romanize Japanese. It's also the closest to the correct pronunciation, which is a good enough reason to keep it. - Richardcavell 13:11, 3 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Shinjuku's "Ni-chome" area is one of the largest gay nightlife areas in Japan, but it isn't mentioned in the article. Is it worth including? Not only that, but Shinjuku has one of the largest concentrations of "blues" and other music-themed bars in all of Tokyo, and perhaps, Japan.

recent edits by 202.236.167.243

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1. Why take out "western Tokyo"? Shinjuku is most definitely in western Tokyo.

Shinjuku is nowhere near western Tokyo! lol Look at a map. It is EASTERN Tokyo! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.155.130.147 (talk) 20:30, 6 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

2. "Capital of Tokyo"? Very strange. Shinjuku has no official status as such, nor do people commonly refer to it that way. This is only slightly less bizarre than saying Manhattan is the capital of New York City.

This confusion is a result of the fact that the English Wikipedia does not make any distinction between Tokyo1 (Tōkyō, c. 9 mill. inhabitants <650 km²) and Tokyo2 prefecture (Tōkyō-to, c. 13 mill. inhabitants, >2000 km²) and defines Tokyo as "one of the 47 prefectures of Japan", i.e. Tokyo2, but then goes on with statements such as "the second most expensive city" which only apply to Tokyo1.
  1. Shinjuku is in Western Tokyo1 (in Wikipedian English that would be something like: Western parts of the area of special wards of Tokyo, Western parts of former Tokyo City), but definitely not in Western Tokyo2 as Tokyo1 covers the easternmost parts of (mainland) Tokyo2.
  2. Accordingly, the Tokyo in "capital of Tokyo" refers to the prefecture (Tokyo2); but as you can see from my last edit, the prefectural government considers Tokyo1 as a whole to be the capital of Tokyo2 – if you stick to Wikipedian English: "Tokyo is the capital of Tokyo." which is at least as bizarre as "Manhattan is the capital of New York City"; it could be translated to English as "Tokyo is the capital of Tokyo prefecture" (or "Metropolis", if you insist on replacing the Wikipedian distortion with an officiar one: But who would consider Iwo Jima, Lake Okutama or Mount Kumotori part of any "Metropolis"?). Alternatively, if you want to give Tokyo2 precedence you could say "Tokyo City is the capital of Tokyo." – but then you would have to disambiguate Tokyo CityA (the now dissolved administrative unit, that formally bore that name as Tōkyō-shi) from Tokyo CityB (the city that now covers the area of Tokyo CityA, consists administratively of 23 special wards without* common institutions, but is still called Tokyo1 by most people outside en.Wikipedia.)
    *: Actually, there are some common institutions of Tokyo's wards, e.g. for organizing horse races [1] or for hiring public servants [2], but those are a cooperation between municipalities, not anything that can be considered an administrative unit.
--Asakura Akira (talk) 10:25, 15 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

outdated info; unsourced claims

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some guidebook-like promotional wording ("best-known" this-or-that; etc) & i'll come back & touch it up myself when i can... the section about Shinjuku station: no mention of shinkansen etc? Narita express etc?... also, no mention at all about the bus lines of importance originating there? "highway buses" connecting tokyo with basically EVERYwhere in Japan? & the fact that there's no formal bus "depot" but instead most bus lines board from curbside bus stops filling the side-streets to the west of the station all the way up to Chuo-Koen? (no mention of THAT either; shinjuku's "Central Park"; and no mention about the weekend flea market, homeless enclaves, and political protests which occur there?) & the fact that Tokyo Marathon's starting point is in front of City Hall? & why is it not referred to as such within the article? (only as "government" building)... its known locally as such (City Hall), & even the Oedo subway stop is named "Tochomae" ("in front of city hall")... & no brief background of Shinjuku Gyoen's origin? (by the way, Shinjuku's borders are pretty well-defined by major thoroughfares; anyone able to tackle that?) most of these details can be considered "common knowledge" forgiving any lack of sources for now; otherwise i'll keep an eye out for sources & update when i can. unfortunately not now~ lots to be done to get this important article up to date! best wishes Japanglish (talk) 15:19, 15 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

There is no shinkansen in Shinjuku 61.215.99.250 (talk) 05:25, 12 June 2015 (UTC)Reply