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Can we think about changing the title of this article? It implies that any act of anti-LGBT violence not listed is therefore not significant. Maybe 'notable' or 'historically significant' would be more appropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.168.209.170 (talk) 00:20, 27 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

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I think it is important we collect this type of information somewhere, but the current arrangement isn't satisfatory.

  • inclusion criteria aren't clear. There are thousands of acts of homophobic violence every year in the US alone. Instead of potentially listing them all, it would make more sense to compile decent statistics
  • the title should be explicitly that of a list article, e.g. list of incidents of homophobic violence or similar. We already have a separate List of unlawfully killed transgender people for the "T" part.
    • perhaps list of homophobic homicides to parallel the "transgender" article? Most cases deemed "significant" will involve homicide in any case.
    • the problem is especially visible under "Brazil": Alexandre Peixe dos Santos, Brazilian gay rights activist, was attacked and beaten in February 2008 ... Activists estimate that more than 2,680 gay people were murdered in Brazil between 1980 and 2006 -- how on earth is this single incident the most significant one out of thousands each year (including hundreds of homicides)? The answer is, it is not significant. It would be more at home in a coherent homophobic violence in Brazil article.
  • the listing by country is not helpful. Especially since at present there is mostly one single entry per h2 section. It would make more sense to present the list chronologically, e.g. by decade.
    • the only countries with extensive listings are the US and the UK. "list of homophobic assaults in the UK/US"?
    • We also need to avoid this becoming a dump for assorted press headlines gathered online. "Significant" or "notable" does not mean "copy-pasted from an online press report". It is much easier to identify the "significant" cases from a distance, e.g. from 20 years ago. If a case is still considered notable 20 years after it occurred, it is safe to say that we should carry it.

--dab (𒁳) 17:57, 2 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

@Dbachmann:, responding a bit late, but the same problems still plague this article. It would similar to a list of attacks on women, or of attacks on ethnic minorities. The best way to filter this list is to limit the inclusion criteria to ONLY those instances which we have articles about - thus only blue-links - that way, we let the article-space decide whether an incident is notable enough to be mentioned here. I agree, a few press reports doesn't suffice, we need to have an article. That's the same criteria applied at the list of transgender homocides.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 17:45, 18 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

I agree that the articles should contain facts or references to them. citings of rumours or claims dont work in spite of the sad fact that this will under-report — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rohemoog (talk • contribs) 18:58, November 20, 2014‎

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I have gone through and copyedited the Australia section. I agree with the discussion above that these lists cannot be complete, so should be limited to events that are significant enough to have Wikipedia articles about the event (the article is named "Significant..."). Of the Australian items, three have links to articles about the events. I did not delete any of the other entries, as there appears to be a cluster of Sydney events in the 1980s and 1990s that the sources link together, but that don't have any Wikipedia articles connected (and I don't want to start one as crime is not my interest). There's also a link to a couple of acaademic articles that don't seem to belong. --Scott Davis Talk 04:21, 14 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

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