Talk:Mount Silverthrone

Name issue

The proper name for this mountain is Silverthrone Mountain

• http://www.bivouac.com/MtnPg.asp?MtnId=1946
• http://srmwww.gov.bc.ca/bcgn-bin/bcg10?name=27033

Also the location is wrong, both of he above have it at 51°31'00" N 126°07'00" W (although I think that they are rounding to minutes at BCNGIS). Also is there some confusion with the "Silverthrone Mountain" in Alaska? Tsylos 07:19, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia convention, as explained in the edit comment of the addition I just made as to the gazetted name, is to go with the more commonly-used form. eg. Fairweather Mountain officially is generally referred to as Mount Fairweather, and as far as I know the redirects work that way in that case; there are others; Cheam Peak/Mount Cheam, Dickson Peak/Mount Dickson, and I could go on. Didn't know there was a Silverthrone Mountain in Alaska, or if there was an entry on in it bivouac, rather, I've forgotten it (I created most of the Alaskan entries in Bivouac); but on a lot of old maps, e.g. the old provincial highway maps dating back to the '50s, and much still in use (can't cite you an edition just now), it's definitely Mount Silverthrone; similarly Good Hope Mountain, officially, is Mount Good Hope in the vernacular, more often than not. Others stay the same; Taseko Mountain, for instance. Anyway, the infobox should probably have an alt-name field, and also a name status field or designator for which of the names present is the officially-gazetted one, if not the title's.Skookum1 10:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I did not know that was the convention. Anyway I added a disabiguation page (for the one in Alaska). I also updated the coordinates to reflect the BCNGIS entry which I asume is correct. The infobox currently does not have an alt-name field Tsylos 18:32, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

The Alaskan one is "Mount Silverthrone" (see www.topozone.com USGS index search), so amended the disambig page accordingly.Skookum1 20:28, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I am unable to find any WP:RS that give the name of this mountain as "Mount Silverthrone", including old provincial highway maps (for example, my 1994 official BC Road Map and Parks Guide shows it as "Silverthrone Mountain"). All RS that I can find say "Silverthrone Mountain" and that is the proper gazetted name, so the article needs to be moved to Silverthrone Mountain, and I will do so (a stuck redirect must be deleted in order to move it). --Seattle Skier (talk) 02:14, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

You know Seattle Skier, Wikipedia does not use officialy gazetted names per WP:Title, which states: Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it instead uses the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources. Just because you can not find any reliable sources that say "Mount Silverthrone" does not mean it is ok to move the page title to "Silverthrone Mountain". In fact, most volcanological souces I seen use Mount Silverthrone, not Silverthrone Mountain. This especially goes for volcano books and papers. So I have moved it back to Mount Silverthrone. In these papers, it is stated this volcanic belt is defined by a group of epixonal plutons and two deeply eroded cauldron complexes, Mt. Silverthrone and Franklin Glacier complexes (Ney, 1968). Here, it states the larger areas are the Franklin Glacier and Mount Silverthrone complexes, neither of which have been thoroughly studied. Yet another here: written accounts include (N to S): Volcano Mountain, Tuya Butte, Level Mountain Range, Milbanke Sound Cones, Wells Grey-Clearwater Volcanic Field, Mount Silverthrone, Bridge River Cones, Meagher Mountain, Mount Cayley, Mount Garibaldi and Garibaldi Lake. In Stuart S. Holland's 1976 Landforms of British Columbia book it states this: The Pacific Ranges culminate in Mount Waddington (13,177 feet) and the surrounding mountain masses centring around Mount Silverthrone (9,700 feet), Mount Queen Bess ( 10,700 feet), and Monmouth Mountain (10,470 feet). Here, it states within this belt lie several prominent stratovolcanoes, amongst them Mount Meager, Mount Cayley and Mount Silverthrone, which have been uniquely identified as areas of interest for geothermal power (Jessop, Ghomshei, & Drury, 1991). Here, Mt. Silverthrone (12), because of its remote location in the central Coast Mountains, has not been studied in detail. On the Natural Resources Canada website: Additional projects on Mount Meager, Mount Silverthrone and Mount Churchill are being planned. A note by volcanologist Catherine Hickson: Stretching northward from the Cascades, the Garibaldi volcanic belt culminates in a 20 km wide caldera complex at Mount Silverthrone. Here, it states: Mount Silverthrone, Mount Cayley, and Mount Garibaldi are other volcanoes on the convergent boundary where the Juan de Fuca plate is being subducted under the North American plate. On the United States Geological Survey website: the volcanoes of the Garibaldi Volcanic Belt generally are stratovolcanoes typical of subduction zone volcanoes, and include Mount Garibaldi, Mount Price, the Black Tusk, Mount Cayley Mount Fee, Mount Meager and Mount Silverthrone. And in the book Climbing the Cascade Volcanoes by Jeff Smoot: It is a "Cascade volcano" in this guide because, in fact, extends further north through Mounts Cayley and Meager to peaks in the southwestern Waddington Range and near Mount Silverthrone. I think you are just not looking hard enough. Volcanoguy 15:07, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Confused

Is Mount Silverthrone the name of two things in the same area? According to the website here, there's a lava dome called Silverthrone Mountain which is the volcano with a height of 2,865 m (9,400 ft) or 3,160 m (10,367 ft) and the caldera is called Silverthrone Mountain or Silverthrone here and here. If they are two different volcanoes in the same area there should be two different articles about them and not one article mentioning the two of them. I have noticed this issue with other articles such as Mount Cayley; some parts of the article seem to mention it as a volcanic field and not a single volcano. Black Tusk 18:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Basemap, which contains the provincial gazette, has only Silverthrone Mountain and the Silverthrone Glacier.Skookum1 (talk) 19:16, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

BCGNIS also has only the two; skiing guides and such are notoriously inaccurate about geography/geology btw.Skookum1 (talk) 19:18, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

A lava dome and a caldera are clearly two different things. The lack of photos of Silverthrone Mountain on the internet doesn't help either, since the volcano could easily contain a caldera at its summit like Mount Edziza. However, a 20 km (12 mi) wide caldera would obviously be too large for a summit caldera since most summit calderas are only a few kilometers wide; Edziza's caldera is only 2 km wide. If there's an independent caldera in the Silverthrone area, it's possible it could be unnamed. The National Resources Canada website here has Silverthrone Caldera but no Silverthrone Mountain. Black Tusk 20:38, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Problem solved. Silverthrone Mountain appears to be a lava dome on the northeast edge of the caldera. I should have read the websites I linked above a lot better. Black Tusk 23:03, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

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