Talk:Sophia of Nassau

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Latest comment: 3 years ago by SergeWoodzing in topic Inappropriate hatnote

Consensus for move?

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Why was this page moved without discussion or consensus? Her legal name was Sofia at death, inappropriate to translate. Please move back! Any possible English sources that have her as "Sophia" are incorrect and should not be used to change the name of the article. SergeWoodzing (talk) 08:45, 7 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

She was baptized as Sophia and raised as Sophia, as that was her name in German. Most importantly, modern English language sources refer to her as Sophia of Nassau. They rarely call her Sofia of Nassau. Altogether, the number of English language sources that call her Sophia of Nassau is seven times the number of English language sources that call her Sofia of Nassau. Even Sophie of Nassau is used much more often than Sofia of Nassau. Sources that call her Sophia are certainly not incorrect. They are using her native name, so the name is not actually translated. Surtsicna (talk) 11:03, 7 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Purported adultery scandal

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Material has been added again about an alleged "scandal" and suffering on the part of Sophia that is to have taken place because of her husband's sex contacts outside of their marriage. It is claimed now as fact again that the queen left the country because of it, as if anyone knew that for a fact, and "it is said" that she "turned to religion" because of it. Nothing whatsoever, however, is actually known about any of that, and no reliable sources have ever related such unsubstantiated gossip as believable. I am reverting this again and ask the IP concerned to add specific sources if things like that are put back into the article. SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:44, 22 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Some of this gossip (for lack of a bettter word) about how the Queen felt, how she reacted and what made her depressed etc etc is also to be found in the Swedish article. It only has one single source, with nothing specified as to whether or not these allegations are from that book:
  • Lars Elgklou (1995). Familjen Bernadotte, en kunglig släktkrönika (in Swedish). Skogs boktryckeri Trelleborg. ISBN 91 7054 755 6.
Did Elgklou know how the Queen felt about all that and how and when she reacted, and if so may we have one single inline citation with a page number? Please! SergeWoodzing (talk) 21:36, 22 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
I have added the reason now for each of the 4 citation tags, as I see them. SergeWoodzing (talk) 21:53, 22 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Old Time Died

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The, more or less, line of the article purports to a quote stating that "The old time died with Grandma.", said by her grandson. However, there is no such comment on the SWEDISH page, there is no reference to where this supposed quote, and finally, her Majesty had no less than 6 grandsons...which of them said it? Basically, this particular line, while quaint, seem so much nonsense. 94.255.173.237 (talk) 11:08, 29 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

Inappropriate hatnote

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Hatnotes are supposed to give a reader actual help in finding or comparing articles about people and things similarly named. They are not meant to clutter the top of articles unnecessarily, far-fetchedly and at whim. I do not believe this is an appropriate action. The 2 women cannot realistically be confused as to which is which. The Swedish queen has never been called "of the Netherlands" simply because she was not of the Netherlands. We would not have a hatnote atop an article about a Prince Philip of Denmark to distinguish him from the Duke of Edinburgh. Opening up the floodwaters of allowing hatnotes due to common dynastic heritage is a very scary slippery slope. I invite discussion here, not continued edit-warring. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 13:06, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply