Talk:Soufrière Hills
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Individual eruption page
editHi wikiterians!
I was wanting to put a question out there about would it be better to make an individual page for the eruption that way we can differentiate from the volcano and keep the eruption page as an event, Let me know what you think. PascalsCalculatingHamster (talk) 11:42, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
Eruptions
editDoes anyone have a description of the eruptions of this volcano? I need it for a report. Thanks!!!!!!!!! I really need this information because there is not a whole lot of sites about this particular topic.gracias!!!!! Can someone tell me if this is located along the ring of fire please. Thanks>Muchas Gracias a todos.
Here's some sources: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3687700.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/country_profiles/3666502.stm
According to various colleagues who have been or still are working on the volcano the eruptions are vulcanian eruptions. Mercalli described such eruptions as "...Sudden powerful explosions sounding like canon fire at irregular intervals..." in contrast to his description of strombolian eruptions "...Moderate explosions at regular intervals..." Mercalli built an observatory on Lipari in the Aeolian Islands to enable him to monitor the eruption that was occurring on Vulcano between 1888 and 1890.The Geologist (talk) 15:01, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
picture
editkind of a minor point, but that picture in the bottom right corner of the page should be moved into the text area. im not sure how to do that, so could someone else do it instead? - Im.a.lumberjack 22:35, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Done. I updated "Last eruption" to 2007, as well -- I think the recent events qualify as an eruption as per this AP article: "The explosion around sunrise also sent a flow of volcanic material cascading two miles down the volcano's northwest flank." Three white leopards 03:31, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
before eruption of 1995
editHow long was this volcano dormant before the 1995 eruption? abajjillion years — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.161.20.58 (talk) 05:49, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Well GVP had some info on that which I've added to the article, I should probably have spent a bit more time to make the format better though. and I guess there is more detail available too. but I figure this is better than no information EdwardLane (talk) 08:31, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
mt.soufriere hills
editI think that this —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.20.113.2 (talk) 15:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Requested move 10 January 2020
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved as nominated — Amakuru (talk) 12:46, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
Soufrière Hills Volcano → Soufrière Hills – "Volcano" is not an inherent part of its name; titles Soufrière Hills, Soufrière Hills volcano and Soufrière Hills (volcano) would all be more appropriate, but the most concise one seems best. See [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]. Dicklyon (talk) 19:09, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Support rename to "Soufrière Hills" (my first preference) or "Soufrière Hills volcano" (my second preference). I think that "Soufrière Hills (volcano)" would only be appropriate if it becomes necessary to disambiguate the volcano article from an article about any non-volcanic Soufrière Hills (but such a non-volcanic article does not yet exist). I suspect the "Soufrière Hills Volcano" title may have originated from unquestioning repetition of a book titled "The Eruption of Soufrière Hills Volcano, Montserrat, from 1995 to 1999." that capitalised the first word and all of the nouns in the title following book publishing conventions/traditions. (By the way, this naming issue is not confined to Soufrière Hills - thousands of Google search hits of other incorrectly named volcanoes, e.g. "Mount St Helens Volcano" and "Mount Vesuvius Volcano", can be found in sources that should know better). GeoWriter (talk) 20:41, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Support. Looks like this article was moved from Soufrière Hills to Soufrière Hills Volcano on September 24, 2019, without discussion, so this is a revert of an undiscussed move, if nothing else. But I'm also satisfied (bolstered by some searching around at Google books) with the nom's argument that enough reliable sources refer to this volcano as just Soufrière Hills to satisfy WP:COMMONNAME, and if it's not clear certainly WP:CONCISE breaks the tie per User:Born2cycle/Concision razor. --В²C ☎ 21:36, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Support move to "Soufrière Hills" per nom and WP:COMMONNAME.--Darwinek (talk) 22:28, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Support Soufrière Hills volcano. Decapitalize the V, because "Soufrière Hills volcano" is not a proper name. Keep "volcano", because the fact that it is a volcano is a central and essential point to the topic. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:39, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- This is what I had moved it to originally to fix the over-capitalized "Volcano". I agree it's best. But B2C reverted it, and I know he goes for shortest titles, so I was trying here for a more sure thing. If enough others agree to including "volcano", let's do. Dicklyon (talk) 03:15, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- By lowercasing volcano you’re conceding it’s not part of the name. Since it’s not part of the name, nor is it needed for disambiguation, it has no business being in the title. —-В²C ☎ 09:34, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- If "Volcano" is part of the name, then it should remain in the title, capitalized. That one is something of a judgement call, as reliable sources can be found for both sides, but as far as I can tell without is more common. As to including lowercase "volcano" in the title, there is no policy basis for doing so. "The fact that it is a volcano is a central and essential point to the topic" is not a WP:CRITERIA. If that were a reason to include "volcano" here, it would justify moving almost every article on WP. For example, by that reasoning K2 should be at K2 mountain since the fact that it is a mountain "is a central and essential point to the topic". The whole point of having published consensus-supporter WP:CRITERIA is so that we don't make up rules on the fly like this to justify whatever title we happen to think is best per some arbitrary criteria that is not supported by consensus, and having contentious debates that are unnecessary and easily avoided. --В²C ☎ 19:13, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Some sources capitalize, some don't, those that don't are indeed surely indicating that its not part of the name so it shouldn't be lower case. Either move as proposed or leave as is. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:49, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- This is what I had moved it to originally to fix the over-capitalized "Volcano". I agree it's best. But B2C reverted it, and I know he goes for shortest titles, so I was trying here for a more sure thing. If enough others agree to including "volcano", let's do. Dicklyon (talk) 03:15, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Support. "Volcano" at the end of "Soufrière Hills" is unnecessary. Volcanoguy 21:09, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
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The Hills are or is?
editWhich the title change the lead has now been changed to say this:
- The Soufrière Hills are an active, complex stratovolcano with many lava domes forming its summit ...
Obviously the name uses a plural word (Hills) but does that make the subject plural? Consider:
- The Biligirirangana Hills, commonly called BR Hills, is a hill range situated in...
- The Black Hills are a small and isolated mountain range rising from ...
- Beverly Hills is a city in ...
I really don't know what the correct usage is in this case. I'm thinking singular, since the topic IS a stratovolcano, but don't know for sure. --В²C ☎ 21:26, 27 January 2020 (UTC)