Talk:Special Committee on Decolonization

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 2A02:C7C:364D:A400:A09F:4F17:2AC8:48B7 in topic Northern Mariana Islands

im still confused

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im still very confused about this artical iv read it 3 times in a row just now trying to make sense of it and cannot figure it out. my big questions are who owns colonies? what country needs to decolonize any of its territory? and what are some of the territories seeking independence? 69.221.168.185 (talk) 16:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Map

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The map currently displayed on this article, while arguably a reasonable depiction of the current dependent territories under at least some definitions, does not correspond with the official list of "non-self-governing territories" as defined by the United Nations itself. See United Nations list of non-self-governing territories. Inasmuch as those are the territories within the purview of this committee, a map showing only those territories might be more relevant here. Newyorkbrad (talk) 18:50, 3 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Member States and Bureau

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I added a list of the member states and bureau members as of June 2010.


Status of the Committee

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What is the status of this Committee? How much support does it have? I gather that the UK ignores the Committee in respect of the Falkland Islands and the USA ignores the Committee in respect of Puerto Rico. It also seems that Committee "members" are largely drawn from countries intent on forming their own political bloc and pay little attention to the wishes of the inhabitants of the territories. As an example, the articles on Puerto Rico seem to suggest that the majority of Puerto Ricans are intent on an association of some sort with the United States. In recent news, it appears that Latin Americans are intent of having Puerto Rico forced into their grouping. What are the realities? Agent0060 12:25, 29 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agent0060 (talkcontribs)

Regarding Puerto Rico, it was added by an IP user who alphabetized the list at the same time. Whether this is a deliberate attempt to conceal a factual inaccurate statement or simple ignorance of Puerto's Rico's actual status vis a vis the UN, I won't speculate, but the effect is that it concealed the addition of verifiably inaccurate information that might have been noticed had the user made two edits or contributed an edit summary. I probably wouldn't have noticed it either except that somebody commented on the vote for statehood. I did a double take when I noticed that PR was included, double-checked the list, and promptly removed it. Remain vigilant people.
As for the status of the Committee, it might have had some effect in the Cold War, persuading some states in the First World to offer their colonies self-determination. Whether the tendency of the Committee to ignore the will of the inhabitants and even the facts on the ground (as with Spain remaining the administering power of the Western Sahara) comes up against WP:FORUM. However I note that the United Nations list of Non-Self-Governing Territories article has Criticism section, as you're not the first person to question the efficacy of the committee. Though Puerto Rico is immaterial to the article, as I mentioned, Wikipedia does have an article Political status of Puerto Rico, if you want to read more. —Quintucket (talk) 00:25, 15 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Why is Puerto Rico Missing?

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Should Puerto Rico not be on the list in this article?? The UN Special Committee has been issuing reports about Puerto Rico as a nation that needs decolonization for some years now. https://www.un.org/press/en/2016/gacol3296.doc.htm

Yes, I know the UN list, Non-Self-Governing Territories, does not include Puerto Rico but am trying to understand why it does not. http://www.un.org/en/decolonization/nonselfgovterritories.shtml

from the Political status of Puerto Rico article: In 2009, 2011, and most recently in 2016, The United Nations Special Committee on Decolonization called for the United States to expedite the process to allow self-determination in Puerto Rico.[5][6][7] Internationally, the people of Puerto Rico are often considered to be a Caribbean nation with their own national identity.[8][9]

In its June 2016 report, the Special Committee called for the United States "... to allow the Puerto Rican people to take decisions in a sovereign manner, and to address their urgent economic and social needs, including unemployment, marginalization, insolvency and poverty".[10] Peter K Burian (talk) 14:57, 21 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

You should write to the U.N. for an answer. Wikipedia is only the messenger in this case. The Dutch(Netherlands), Danish(Denmark), and French areas are also absent as are Spain's and Portugal's. CaribDigita (talk) 04:39, 22 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Scotland

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Scotland is now a resourse colony of England.The Scots voted to remain in the EU.Their wishes are being disregarded. Their resources are being plundered by England. Their parliament is being sidelined and may be replaced by a colonial non elected administrate. Seamas41 (talk) 20:02, 10 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

You appear to be horribly miniformed, or just perpetuating Conspiracy Theories. Spend a little time reading, and less listening to the SNP. Thanks Jenova20 (email) 15:08, 10 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Manchuria

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Citation 42 attempts to prove the existence of a Manchurian independence movement by asserting Manchukuo was an organic creation, flying in the face of the historically accepted view that it was a Japanese puppet state.

2601:600:A37F:F111:114E:AB66:FE3:9C0 (talk) 18:24, 31 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Northern Mariana Islands

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The Northern Mariana Islands seem to be the only US territory not included here. What's the reason for its absence when others such as Guam, Puerto Rico, and the US Virgin Islands are here? 2A02:C7C:364D:A400:A09F:4F17:2AC8:48B7 (talk) 2A02:C7C:364D:A400:A09F:4F17:2AC8:48B7 (talk) 23:06, 26 November 2023 (UTC)Reply