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Reliable sourcing
editThere is a concern that IMDb is not a reliable source of information for living subjects, as it is a "user contributed" environment similar to Wikipedia. This article has been tagged as unsourced for 4 months now (since February 2007), is there anything better available we can use? Burntsauce 23:38, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- Yes. If you would unblank the page, then citations could be added. WWE.com has archives of results, and so does Online World of Wrestling. Nikki311 23:41, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- Well Miss Kitty's OWOW profile had been deleted upon her request, to distance herself from professional wrestling. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Haleth (talk • contribs) 07:54, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- Not true, her profile is still on owow, i just looked at itAladdin Zane 08:12, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Her Online World of Wrestling profile was deleted and is now empty, not the Online Women of Wrestling one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RiverKK (talk • contribs) 17:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- Her profile is still there. scroll to the bottom of her page and click it. I just looked at it. When the pop-up comes up first you have to click close. Just provide a valid citation if you think you are right, BTW, RiverKK is now a suspected sock puppet of HalethAladdin Zane 17:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Third opinion: add it in when you have a reliable source. Provide a link to where it says that, and you can prove your side. Until then, just let it be. Furthermore, sockpuppets hurt your case and credibility. Aladdin Zane, you may want to report that here: Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets. Nikki311 17:38, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thats not all he's done, he also called me several vulgar names on my talk page, along with the fact he created the sock puppet right after he violated the 3RR and I warned him about it on his userpage. He didn't use the sock puppet YET to revert anything, he just used it to try and make a comment as if he was a seperate userAladdin Zane 17:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- but that's all i told him too, if it's true provide a valid citation for it.Aladdin Zane 17:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- Okay. Just for fun I looked up her Online World of Wrestling profile for myself (Follow the link). It does say it was removed by request, so if Haleth wants to, he/she can put it back in. Nikki311 17:55, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- I agree he can put it what it states only. It doesn't say she requested it. Unless we know what was on that page, we don't know why it was requested. Also because it was requested on one sight does not mean it was requested on all. If it states something like "Recently her Online World of Wrestling profile was removed upon request" thats ok, but not if it says "by her request" because that is speculative. It would also be speculative to assume it was requested on all sites.Also not owow profile because owow.com is online women of wrestling. Also there is still tons of information about her on the site Online World of wrestling, So unless there is proof She requested it, it needs to be listed as such. Because any number of people could have requested it, for any number of reasons.Aladdin Zane 18:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- That seems like a good compromise to me. Nikki311 18:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- I put it in, tell me what you think.Aladdin Zane 18:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- Nikki311 Haleth showed up this morning finally using a sock puppet. He used the IP address 220.236.87.126 that changed the info on what we discussed, Case has been reported now that he is officialy a sock puppet.Aladdin Zane 14:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- I put it in, tell me what you think.Aladdin Zane 18:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- That seems like a good compromise to me. Nikki311 18:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- but that's all i told him too, if it's true provide a valid citation for it.Aladdin Zane 17:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Funny how someone who accused me of suckpuppetry is himself accused and proven to have multiple sockpuppet accounts for a while now, and accused me using vulgar abuse against him when he actually did that to ME, which I removed to avoid further confrontation. Can you take some lowlife like him seriously, Nikki? Haleth (talk) 05:15, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Unprotect
editIf this new version of the page could be added back in, that would be great. Thanks. Nikki311 05:16, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
- Can someone please unprotect this page? I think this is a good start. Burntsauce 16:30, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
- I transfered this version in and am unprotecting the page now. --Myles Long 17:18, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks! Nikki311 17:42, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
- I transfered this version in and am unprotecting the page now. --Myles Long 17:18, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
WikiProject class rating
editThis article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 04:31, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Location of birth
editAt WP:DATE, you can see how a birth is supposed to be written in the lead (with no mention of birthplace). Looking through the Featured Articles, this is also how they are written (date in the lead, place in the text). See Art Houtteman, Lee Smith (baseball), Archie Jackson, Bobby Eaton, and Wayne Gretzky. Nikki311 19:11, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
GA Review
edit- This review is transcluded from Talk:Stacy Carter/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
- Lead
- Is there a source for DOB?
- World Wrestling Federation (1999-2001)
- She lost the Championship on the January 31 edition of Raw to Harvey "Hervina" Wippleman in a 'Lumberjill Snowbunny match'. - is there a link to this type of match or an elaboration that can be given.
- Explained. Nikki311 23:47, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- Other
- Is there any follow to her current state of today? Any news, because this article is outdated.
- Updated. Nikki311 23:31, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- There are no images of the subject.
- There are no free images, but lack of images isn't a reason to fail a GA. Nikki311 23:06, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- I also feel that her personal life section is too small. More than half of the article is about her "career," there has to be some more information on her personal life no?
- I found a page in Lawler's book that I had previously overlooked. It had quite a bit about her personal life, so I was able to add quite a bit of info in. Nikki311 23:31, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- Is there a source for her finishing moves?
- Not from a reliable source, so I removed them. Nikki311 23:06, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- Why is the section called "championships and accomplishments" and not just "championships" if that is the only thing she won?
- Removed "accomplishments". Nikki311 23:06, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- The Kat then appeared at the Royal Rumble in the 'Miss Royal Rumble Swimsuit Contest', where she appeared in a bikini made out of Bubble Wrap. - does Bubble Wrap really have to be capitalized?
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
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- A. References to sources:
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- C. No original research:
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- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. Major aspects:
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- Is it neutral?
- Fair representation without bias:
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- No edit wars, etc:
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- A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
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- A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
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- Pass or Fail:
- Although a short article, it is relatively written "good," though there is a couple of prose and other types of issues that need to be addressed before making a final decision in this GAN. Article On hold--SRX 21:27, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- Pass or Fail:
- Great work. But for the finishing moves, what source was trying to be used to source the finishing moves?SRX 03:14, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- There isn't one at all. A fly-by editor added those in awhile ago, and I never got around to deleting them until now. Also, I'm still looking for a source for her DOB. It is listed all over the net as September 29, 1971, but I have yet to find a reliable source for it. However, in Lawler's book, he says they met on July 1989 ("two months before she turned 19"), so simple subtraction tells you that she was born in September 1971. I'm going to do some more searching for the exact date, but if I can't find it, I'm going to change her birthday to September 1971 and cite Lawler's book. Nikki311 17:54, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Ok take your time. Notify me when you make up your mind about the DOB. For the finishing moves, is there a results page that says how she won a match, as that could be used to source the finishing move w/ a quote.SRX 20:28, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- She didn't really have "wrestling matches"...usually just stripping matches. I've added stinkface for now, because she did perform that, especially during the match with Runnels. I'll see what I can find, though. I've got a lot going on right now, so it might take a day or two for me to finish everything, but it'll be done before seven days. Also, I trust your judgment, so no second opinion is needed. Nikki311 21:09, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- That works. Take your time. Also, thank you for trusting my judgment :)--SRX 23:13, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Alright. I think I'm done. I searched all the reliable sources I know of that include results (SLAM, WrestleView, etc. etc.) but couldn't find any sources for any other signature moves. I also couldn't find a reliable source for her birthdate, so I used just the month and year (as previously mentioned). Is there anything else you can might want me to fix, expand, or explain? Nikki311 00:24, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- That works. Take your time. Also, thank you for trusting my judgment :)--SRX 23:13, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- She didn't really have "wrestling matches"...usually just stripping matches. I've added stinkface for now, because she did perform that, especially during the match with Runnels. I'll see what I can find, though. I've got a lot going on right now, so it might take a day or two for me to finish everything, but it'll be done before seven days. Also, I trust your judgment, so no second opinion is needed. Nikki311 21:09, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Great work. But for the finishing moves, what source was trying to be used to source the finishing moves?SRX 03:14, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Great job. That is fine with what you attempted to do. When more info is available, you should attempt to add it. Also, when an image is available it should be added. This GAN is a Pass.--SRX 02:10, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Nude at other Pay-Per-Views
editI think this line "After the event, she was shown nude several more times on other pay-per-views." needs a source, because the only one that I've seen in her WWF/E career is Armageddon 1999. If it's at non-WWF/E events then that should be mentioned. (Loosie (talk) 15:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC))
- Did you read the rest of the article? She was also nude at Insurrection, partially nude at the Royal Rumble (bubble wrap is see-through), and all-though the article doesn't mention it, she was also nude (in a segment, not in a match) at WrestleMania. Nikki311 16:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- My apologies I did miss the Insurrextion bit in the article. I find I tend to be somewhat ignorant to the UK-only events as I haven't seen them. (Loosie (talk) 16:42, 31 July 2008 (UTC))
- If my memory serves (haven't watched it since) she had an arm wrestling match with Terri and after losing Terri tried to pull at the strap of her top to embarass her. Showing she couldn't be embarassed Kat then turned round (so the camera could only see her back) and flashed the crowd. Tony2Times (talk) 15:12, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Stacy Carter
editI check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Stacy Carter's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "owow":
- From Sable (wrestler): "Official Women of Wrestling: Sable 1999 Updates". Retrieved 2006-07-04.
- From Wendi Richter: "Wendi Richter's profile". Online World of Wrestling. Retrieved 2009-01-09.
- From Debrah Miceli: "Madusa's profile". Online World of Wrestling. Retrieved 2009-05-17.
- From Ivory (wrestler): "Ivory's profile". Online World of Wrestling. Retrieved September 3, 2008.
- From Candice Michelle: "OWoW Profile". Online World of Wrestling. Retrieved 2007-07-01.
- From Velvet McIntyre: "Velvet McIntyre's profile". Online World of Wrestling. Retrieved 2008-11-03.
- From Jacqueline Moore: "Jackie Moore's profile". Online World of Wrestling. Retrieved 2009-05-22.
- From Cynthia Lynch: "Bobcat's Profile". Online World of Wrestling. Retrieved 2008-04-19.
- From Terri Runnels: "PMS's profile". Online World of Wrestling. Retrieved 2008-08-29.
- From Leilani Kai: "Leilani Kai's profile". Online World of Wrestling. Retrieved 2009-06-02.
- From Bull Nakano: "Bull Nakano's profile". Online World of Wrestling. Retrieved 2009-05-16.
- From Molly Holly: "Jonny Fairplay's Profile". Online World of Wrestling. Retrieved 2007-05-12.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 09:35, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
The reason reason Stacy Carter left the WWF/WWE
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Someone wrote an article detailing real truths of what happened to wrestlers, their wives, or stuff that happened backstage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Majinsnake (talk • contribs) 05:35, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
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Requested move 2 November 2021
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved.
4 editors support this move per WP:COMMONNAME and only 1 opposes, so I find consensus to move.(non-admin closure) Havelock Jones (talk) 22:42, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
Stacy Carter → The Kat – Carter is best known for her appearances with the World Wrestling Federation from August 1999 to February 2001. From December 1999 to February 2001, she performed as "The Kat". McPhail (talk) 10:02, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- Support. Her entire notability hinges on her time in WWF, where The Kat is the clear WP:COMMONNAME. — Czello 10:07, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- I was writting Strong oppose, but then I realized she is not Stacey Keibler. Support, per COMMONNAME. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 10:37, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose, what she is best known for is winning the Women's Championship and flashing her breasts on live TV at Armageddon (1999) - and that happened while she was named "Miss Kitty". 162 etc. (talk) 16:33, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- Support Per WP:COMMONNAME. Not that it matters, but she changed her named during her Women's Championship reign and went on to flash her breasts on TV as The Kat too. Also, LOL at HHH Pedrigree's comment.LM2000 (talk) 09:19, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
Post move clean up
editI've made some basic edits to reflect the new name, but the article could do with being tidied up by someone familiar with the subject, to check the right name is being used in the right places. McPhail?
- @Havelock Jones: - will do, thank you. McPhail (talk) 10:49, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
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