Talk:Stephen Miller (political advisor)
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On 11 November 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Stephen Miller. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
Biased description of a character
editSince Wikipedia is the encyclopedia of the world, do you think this bio delivers all the perspectives ? 2604:3D08:1282:4500:5D19:81BC:7E33:3364 (talk) 04:07, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- It delivers the noteworthy and notable perspective, yes. We don't give a platform to the fringe. ValarianB (talk) 11:34, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
This article is biased. What you call the fringe is composed of Americans who believe in morality. Wikipedia is not neutral. TideWater11 (talk) 02:29, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- TideWater11, please provide some evidence for your assertion. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:37, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- it's definitely biased. It said he's anti immigration and that's a lie. He's anti illegal immigration! 2600:1700:3551:2800:BC93:F9C0:7BC6:457A (talk) 20:47, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Nope, also anti-legal immigration.
- Stephen Miller: Trump will implement ‘spectacular migration crackdown’
- Emails show Stephen Miller pressed hard to limit green cards – Muboshgu (talk) 20:51, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Immigration
editHe's anti illegal immigration. Not immigration. 2600:1700:3551:2800:BC93:F9C0:7BC6:457A (talk) 20:45, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Miller is anti all immigration. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:52, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Edit ...
- Racist Fox News guest Stephen Miller: “If you import the Third World, you become the Third World"
- https://www.mediamatters.org/stephen-miller/fox-news-guest-stephen-miller-if-you-import-third-world-you-become-third-world 76.156.161.247 (talk) 21:56, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 11 November 2024
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 18:31, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Stephen Miller (political advisor) → Stephen Miller
- Stephen Miller → Stephen Miller (disambiguation)
– A pageview analysis shows that this Miller has received far more views than the other Stephen Millers. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 15:42, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose A mere page view analysis for a recently active political figure is biased by WP:RECENTISM. No other evidence provided. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:59, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Miller is not recently active, as his infobox shows. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 16:06, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- He's active. Very recently active. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:09, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- I should have clarified, what I'm referring to is that he had roles in Trump's administration and will continue to have those roles. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 16:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hence WP:RECENTISM. Is he more important than a former governor of Minnesota or a former governor of South Carolina in the long-term? Or how about the other ten or so? And please don't edit your comments after someone has already responded to it. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:16, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- I should have clarified, what I'm referring to is that he had roles in Trump's administration and will continue to have those roles. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 16:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- He's active. Very recently active. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:09, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Miller is not recently active, as his infobox shows. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 16:06, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support Clearly the primary topic, the other pages are not nearly as notable. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 19:17, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support per above. WP:RECENTISM doesn't apply as he has been a major figure since 2016. Additionally, he is going to be appointed as Deputy Chief of Staff in the White House. The other Stephen Millers are nowhere as notable. Danski14(talk) 19:26, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- This is essentially the definition of RECENTISM. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. WP:RECENTISM. Theparties (talk) 19:55, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support per points raised above. The Account 2 (talk) 15:02, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose WP:RECENTISM. Doug Weller talk 15:17, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on the WP:RECENTISM grounds cited above, and because of the sheer commonality of the given name, surname, and combination. I would also note that all of these are easily confused with the many names at Steve Miller. BD2412 T 17:38, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. No primary topic here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:23, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
SPLC
editIncluding that someone is listed as an "extremist" by the Southern Poverty Law Center is useless information, akin to noting that they are listed by the John Birch Society as a communist. 128.92.214.163 (talk) 22:56, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Opinion
editMuch of this is opinion vs fact 2600:100A:B11A:F9E8:528:C5AA:CA34:80E4 (talk) 22:42, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- I agree. A very slanted article for Wikipedia. The references to what Miller supposedly said in high school are petty and subjective. Lscollison (talk) 17:23, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- How so? This is a biography of his entire life, not just his time in the Trump administrations. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:24, 13 November 2024 (UTC)