Talk:Strictly Come Dancing

Most tens

Alexandra and Gorka now have the record for most tens, with 32 (please edit, thank you). In addition, Debbie and Giovanni earned 22 tens Fan420 (talk) 03:35, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 December 2017

Please change the part of the article that states Ricky Whittle as having scored the most tens of 28. After series 15, that title now belongs to Alexandra Burke with a total of 32 tens. 81.98.45.51 (talk) 22:55, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 21:06, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

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Highest score for dancing an Argentine Tango

Debbie McGee did not get 40 points for dancing an Argentine tango she scored 38. She got 40 for dancing just the tango — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.140.115 (talk) 09:54, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 February 2018

85.64.61.97 (talk) 10:08, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

•  Not done No identifiable request. Please make your request in the form "please change X to Y", otherwise we can not process it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iffy (talk • contribs) 14:18, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 June 2018

85.64.61.97 (talk) 05:32, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Strictly Come Dancing. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned.  spintendo  06:42, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 September 2018

Logo and title sequence designed and directed since series one by Piers Helm Seymournuts (talk) 10:03, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

He's not individually notable. But do you have a source for that? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:25, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

I found one, [1], but I don't know whether a Wikipedia article on a TV show would typically list who designed the credits. Somehow I don't think it would, but I may be wrong. Fish+Karate 12:24, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

 Not done Seeing as this remains open, I'm going to say it's not sufficiently important to include in the article, but if someone else thinks it is, there's a reference here to use. Fish+Karate 10:47, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Returning to this edit request I would say that as the Theme music composer is listed in the Wikipedia article then the designer of the shows logo and branding should be too, I further references [2] and [3] Seymournuts (talk) 07:42, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:53, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 September 2018

Can somebody please add Susannah Constantine to the lowest scoring female celebrities as she has now been eliminated and will be the lowest scoring female at an average of 12.00. 86.184.214.46 (talk) 21:32, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:48, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Strictly curse

Could we add the "Strictly curse" to the controversy section? The BBC has done an article on it [4], so its not just tabloid coverage now. Gaia Octavia Agrippa ^Talk 18:34, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

I was a bit surprised it wasn't there already. It seems to be mentioned often enough by "proper" news sources. Opera hat (talk) 08:15, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Major article restructure

I think that the current article is being significantly bloated by the Main series results, Specials, Live! and Statistics sections that are, in effect, simple lists. Perhaps these need to be separated from the main article to their own articles (i.e. "List of Strictly Come Dancing main series results", "List of Strictly Come Dancing live tours" and so on), so as to keep the main article more focussed on the series as a whole. When compared to other reality show articles such as Big Brother or The X Factor, it definitely needs streamlining.Mosherdude91 (talk) 14:14, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

No objections. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:10, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 October 2018

Can someone please now add Katie Piper to lowest scoring celebrities as she has now been eliminated making her final average 17.50 86.151.51.72 (talk) 21:37, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:45, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 October 2018

Can someone please add the 3 couples choice dances to highest and lowest dances. 86.151.51.72 (talk) 21:44, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

•  Done. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:08, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Issues that need fixing

In the ‘statistics’ section, the three lowest average scoring dancers are listed by name. Susannah Constantine should be listed as part of the three lowest average scores but is not. Also, Charles Venn has been incorrectly stated to have recieved 39 for his Couple’s Choice in the Highest Scores by Dance section. I can’t fix these issues as the page is protected. Joshamilton15 (talk) 23:39, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

 Done Martinevans123 (talk) 17:19, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 November 2018

Can someone please add couples choice or Jazz, Street and Contemperary to the highest and lowest scores. 2A02:C7D:B490:4200:A9BF:B15A:8AF4:C887 (talk) 08:46, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DannyS712 (talk) 05:59, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 November 2018

86.151.51.72 (talk) 20:34, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Matt14451 (talk) 20:39, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 November 2018

Can somebody please add couple choice to highest and lowest scores for dances. It is now a new dance and would have Lauren Steadmen and AJ Pritchard as lowest scoring couple at 24 and Ashley Roberts and Pasha Kovalev and Faye Tozer and Giovanni Pernice as the highest scoring couple at 39. 2A02:C7D:B490:4200:1C54:68FB:36BC:D838 (talk) 13:55, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

There seems to be some debate about whether "couple's choice" should be included as a single separate entry, or whether the component alternative dances need to be given. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:26, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.--B dash (talk) 06:17, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Highest-scoring celebrities

Ashley Roberts actually has a current average score of 35.67, which would place her just below Kara Tointon as opposed to being tied with Caroline Flack and Denise van Outen who have an average score of 35.13

Joshamilton15 (talk) 21:24, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Highest-scoring celebrities

Ashley Roberts now has an average score of 35.70, placing her above Kara Tointon.

Joshamilton15 (talk) 22:43, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Moving camera shots

The infobox says: "Camera setup: Multi-camera." But looking at the picture at that article the set-up looks wholly static. How do they get the moving shots in Strictly? Is it with a hand-held camera or some other type of moving camera device? Also the show is making increasing use of special lighting techniques like the 3-D projection of the lighthouse for Karim & Amy's dance last night: [5]. I think these should be mentioned somewhere. 86.187.168.156 (talk) 10:35, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Statistics Section

I was reading through this tonight and thought a review of a particular part of this section where it says:

Alexandra Burke and her partner Gorka Márquez and Ashley Roberts and her partner Pasha Kovalev hold the record of most tens with 32, then that is followed by Faye Tozer and Giovanni Pernice with 31, then Ricky Whittle and his partner Natalie Lowe with 28. However, if the four tens given by Darcey Bussell during her tenure as a fifth judge are removed, he is behind Danny Mac and Oti Mabuse, with 26 tens, and Rachel Stevens and her partner Vincent Simone and Harry Judd and his partner Aliona Vilani with 25 each. They are followed by Natalie Gumede and Artem Chigvintsev and Ore Oduba and Joanne Clifton with 24 each, Caroline Flack and Pasha Kovalev with 23, Abbey Clancy and Aljaž Skorjanec and Debbie McGee and Giovanni Pernice with 22, Kara Tointon and Artem Chigvintsev with 21 and Lisa Snowdon and Brendan Cole, Kimberley Walsh and Pasha Kovalev and Denise van Outen and James Jordan with 20.[95] Of these celebrities, Snowdon and Cole, Flack and Kovalev, Tozer and Pernice and Roberts and Kovalev are the only pairings to receive straight tens from the judges in all of their dances in their respective series finals. Flack and Kovalev and Roberts and Kovalev are the only pairs to manage three sets of perfect 40 marks in the final, and also hold the records for the longest consecutive streak of 40 marks with four, that includes their Salsa and American Smooth in the semi-final shows respectively, and the longest consecutive streak of tens, that adds to a total of 16.

Could do with a review as it makes no sense and I couldn't understand what it was even trying to say? I couldn't edit it in to better words as I am not sure what they mean... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darce98 (talk • contribs) 23:37, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

No tributes to the late contestants anywhere?

No mention of the contestants who have passed away anywhere. Nowhere on this landing page for the whole series, and nowhere on the individual series pages of the contestants (Jason Wood of S1, Lynda Bellingham of S7, Paul Daniels of S8, and most recently and notably, Caroline Flack - winner of S12). It obviously mentions their passings on individual pages, but do these passings not deserve any mention on this landing page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:5800:27E0:C198:74E4:8149:D4D1 (talk) 20:53, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

They're mentioned on the page List of Strictly Come Dancing contestants… to be honest I don't think it is quite notable for the deaths to be mentioned in the main articles unless the death relates to Strictly, which in all cases, they don't. Just because someone "dies" for any particular reason means it should be mentioned here? MadGuy7023 (talk) 21:41, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Those connected with Love Island who killed themselves are mentioned in that article, as that has become a newsworthy topic in itself. Something similar happened with the The Jeremy Kyle Show. But that certainly hasn't happened with Strictly Come Dancing. I'm really not sure the connection of the contestants, with the show, in this series, is sufficiently strong to merit any mention. There will be some older contestants who die. That's just coincidence. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:49, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

That's really cruel and heartless to not want to honor their memory on here in any kind of way. Nice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:5800:27E0:C198:74E4:8149:D4D1 (talk) 21:30, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

I guess someone needs to take out the part that mentions Bruce Forsyth died then. Why should we care just because someone died for any particular reason? He's just a host who died. Just a coincidence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:5800:27E0:C198:74E4:8149:D4D1 (talk) 21:38, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Strictly sister show on BBC3 ?

There was there a sister show of Strictly on BBC3 during season one. Don't remember what it was called. It was a guy with big hair that presented it but I can't remember his name. It then moved to BBC2 with a rebrand to ITT.

Did I really see this or did I dream it? It's just not mentioned on the programme almost as if they want it to fad away. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.159.113.237 (talk) 15:03, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Richie Anderson (presenter)

Can someone Fix redirect 195.89.72.16 (talk) 13:45, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Table

You know the table just before the professionals why was it changed and also I preferred the old table Superman011 (talk) 17:51, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

that's right. I preferred the old one as well, I've been having this problem with the dance charts on the American Version of this show, this person named Bgsu98 has changed the chart by taking out the red and green for representing the highest and lowest scoring dances, cause he or she thinks it's a violation of MOS:COLOR and constitute WP:Fancruft and original research, but when I started editing years ago they didn't say that, I tried talking sense into him or her but he or she wouldn't listen to me and thinks I violated the policies but I didn't, I follow the policies and make sure not to mess up the pages and I don't want that person to keep ruining this site Vegawolfdog (talk) 04:05, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Professional dancers table

Having looked at this page compared to how it was before the user Bgsu98 edited, I can see countless information was removed. While I can see the logic in removing some information (such as the stats) for being fancruft and only benefitting a very small number of fans, I disagree with the outright removal of the professional dancers table. While I can see that some information in the table is probably not needed, such as the average score for each professional dancer (a clear example of fancruft in regard to professional dancers), I cannot see the entirety of the table being an example of Fancruft, because the real purpose of the table is to show who each professional dancer has been coupled with, and a brief summary of the result. I also cannot see it being an example of original research, because it simply compliles information from each series. For those arguing that this is original research, and doesn't need to be included, I can also point them to dance charts shown on the articles for each series, which collect their information in the exact same way (compiling data from a different part of the article). In the same way, the list of strictly contestants (on a separate article) can also be interpreted as original research if it collects data from other articles. Does anyone think that reinstating the chart (albeit in a slightly modified fashion) would be a good idea? If this table is not reinstated, then other strictly tables around wikipedia should also be removed for reasons stated above? Lawrence 979 (talk) 19:47, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

The table was redundant because that information is already available here: List of Strictly Come Dancing contestants. That table is sortable by professional dancer, so you can see every celebrity each pro had, what season, and how they finished. Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:09, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

I disagree with that, because while there is the option to sort by professional dancer, it is clearly not designed for the purpose, and the black lines separating series worsen the quality. There are also flaws in cases where professional dancers were filed under different names, which incorrectly can cause some people to believe that Karen Hauer and Karen Clifton are different people, something that is in fact incorrect, because it is simply a married name. Some of the information you removed is also relevant information, such as which professional dancers did not have partners in each series, including for some that have never had any partners. In general, I would consider the list of strictly come dancing contestants to simply have a different purpose for readers, and overall I think including the professional dancers table in some form would (in my opinion at least) improve readability and conciseness of information. Either way, there is insufficient consensus one way or the other, so I'm not going to be making any immediate changes until more comments have come in. I would also suggest that Bgsu98 looks at the talk page on the page of contestants for some improvements I recommended there. Lawrence 979 (talk) 20:40, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Those are good points; let me see what I can come up with. Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:45, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

I agree with Lawrence 979, put the professional dancers table back. The info it showed is not available elsewhere. It showed at a glance how long each pro had/has been on the show, which the table on "List of Strictly Come Dancing contestants" does not. That table is designed to be an overview of the celebrities, who are all only on one series each, not an overview of the pros, who are all on the show for varying lengths of time, most of them for more than one series. Therefore, the "SCD contestants" table cannot serve the same purpose as this page's original professional dancers table, as the two tables have an entirely different focus. Maybe each pro's average score is unnecessary but the table itself was not at all redundant and should be reinstated. WatermelonRings (talk) 18:40, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

That table is sortable by professional dancer, and I removed the black dividing lines because someone complained it made it difficult to sort. Bgsu98 (Talk) 19:00, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Sir/Dame

Please amend Arlene Phillips' name to Dame Arlene Phillips. Or remove the 'Sir' from Sir Bruce Forsyth and the 'dame' from Dame Darcey Bussell. They should all be treated with fairness and equality.

Source for Arlene Phillips becoming a dame: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-57427516 92.39.204.3 (talk) 16:29, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Done. Bgsu98 (Talk) 21:15, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Celebrities experience level

Does the show have a policy on the experience level of the celebrities? Some reviewers have been critical about certain celebrities being allowed on the show despite their level of experience. (78.19.44.17 (talk) 17:30, 19 December 2023 (UTC))