Talk:Student publication

Canada focus

What's with the heavy canada focus? Give some examples of school controlled newspapers' websites and some independent ones. (unsigned 85.250.66.143

I don't see it being Canada heavy. There is a section for America and a section for Canada? And please sign your messages in the future by typing ~~~~ at the end. -- Rediahs 23:42, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

What makes Varsity the UK's most famous student newspaper? This seems to be a personal option and is unverifiable. graemep 01:27, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Rewrite

I'm going to undertake a major revision of this article, as it seems to have gotten very confused along the way. The paragraph about U.S. papers is focused entirely on high school papers (except for the last sentence), and it then transitions into a discussion about Canadan college press with "in contrast." Apples and oranges, people. The result is a totally bizarre notion that U.S. college newspapers are subject to more censorship than their Canadian or British counterparts, and there's just no evidence of that, because in the U.S., at the college level, state funding is not conditioned on government interference, thanks primairly to the First Amendment.

In (far belated) response to the question as to why it's "Canada heavy," the U.S. has around ten times the schools that Canada does, yet there's only one mention of a U.S. college paper, and 11 Canadian college papers. Obviously, this is an artifact of the confusion as to what the real subject of the article was to begin with, and the result of a dumping of large amounts of college information in an article that hadn't had any real college discussion to begin with; but it does skew the viewpoint as to the relative scope of student journalism. In other words, it's not "Canada heavy" because Canadian information needs to be removed, per se (although the list of student newspapers is pointless, as we have another entry for that); it's just "U.S. light" if we're going to go into that level of depth.

I'll give this a couple days to see if anyone has anything else to add, but my plan at this point is to break it down into separate sections by country; trim the "laundry-list" information about specific student newspapers, but include links to the lists by country/state/province; and write a section about U.S. colleges. Once that's done it'll hopefully give further cleanup ideas. Junkmale 16:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

No problems here, Junkmale. As long as the article is going to be more international in scope, and fair to all, then I think it deserves a rewrite. -- Agendum 14:37, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. This is really biased against U.S. student journalism. I think. --

I took on a quick rewrite. It's not done, but I fleshed out what was there - when I (or someone else) has time, we can add more info on US college papers. Thoughts? --Paper pusher 15:07, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

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Links

"For a more detailed review of state and national student press rights, see the Student Press Law Center's site here."

This doesn't really add to the entry, and there isn't a direct link to statistics or specific information to strengthen the article (link takes you to homepage). Shouldn't it be moved to "See also" at the bottom of the page? DCSB2005 (talk) 21:34, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

New edit 2010

Hello everyone! I am hoping to do a large edit of this article, which, according to the page, it has needed since February of 2008. Below is the list of things I plan to change/do.

-edit opening paragraph to be more brief, specific, and descriptive.

-Rename the section currently entitled “John Silber and the b.u. exposure” to more accurately reflect the content of the section

-Find a new picture which illustrates something important about the article but follows fair use policies

-Insert a section 1.5 regarding the lack of diversity recent studies have found in United States student publication editors and that impact on content and voice of these papers.

-Delete the heading “High School vs. college student press rights” and move that text to below the first paragraph of the heading “First Amendment protections for student media in the United States” to get rid of the false dichotomy that such a heading creates.

-change “ student newspaper critics” to “ critical student newspapers” in the first paragraph of the ex “John Silber and the b.u. Exposure” section

-delete the last sentence of the ex “John Silber and the b.u. Exposure” section as it is unnecessary

-Add basic background information about the Hazelwood, Kincaid and Tinker cases to the “First Amendment protections for student media in the United States” sections

-remove “including Chicago” from the ex “High School vs. college student press rights” section- its redundant to say Illinois and Chicago

-Completely rewrite the “Online student publications” sections to remove the overly specific, somewhat biased example of award winning high school online newspapers

-cut the words “truly”, “democratically” and replace “interference” with “input” from the “Student Press in Canada” section in order to remove bias

-research and remove one of the last two sentences of the “Student Press in the United Kingdom” section, as the two parts are directly contradictory

-Add links to Tinker vs. Des Moines Independent Community School district, Hazelwood vs Kuhlmeier, Kincaid v. Gibson, Journalism Education Association, and Canadian University Press

I have some experience in the study of student newspapers, but little experience editing Wikipedia pages. Any feedback on re-edits would be greatly appreciated as I learn from this experience. Thank you!Wietens (talk) 07:41, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

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