Talk:President of Russia
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Term Limit
editis there a limit of terms one can be elected president of russia? Solidusspriggan 07:07, 5 December 2005 (UTC) Look here http://kremlin.ru/eng/articles/ConstMain.shtml Dudtz 12/9/05 4:48 PM EST
- Article 81, clause 3: "One and the same person cannot hold the office of the President of the Russian Federation for more than two terms running." Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like a limit on consecutive terms only. Shiye
- The Duma was willing to give Putin a third term by ammending the constitution, but Putin said no. So this does say that it is consecutive terms only. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 01:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
- Does this mean that you can serve in blocks of two terms? Or after the initial two, can you only serve one in between other presidents? I'm guessing the former, but correct me if I'm wrong. -Grahamdubya (talk) 17:55, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- Details of teh election laws has been changed at least twice in the past 20 years.. if they'll want to change it again, I'm sure United Russia will change it, as they're holding majority of power everywhere. Current interpretation - 2x6year terms, 1 term gap allows repeat. 15:27, 6 December 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gendalv (talk • contribs)
- Does this mean that you can serve in blocks of two terms? Or after the initial two, can you only serve one in between other presidents? I'm guessing the former, but correct me if I'm wrong. -Grahamdubya (talk) 17:55, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- The Duma was willing to give Putin a third term by ammending the constitution, but Putin said no. So this does say that it is consecutive terms only. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 01:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Title
editIs the correct full title 'President of the Russian Federation', or is it simply 'President of Russia'? If it is the former then this should be included in the article.--Abc30 19:42, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
- It's the former. I like to move the article to the full title, but everyone likes to move everything from the Russian Federation to Russia. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 19:45, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
- Nice edit, and I did the move. Let's see if this sticks. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:08, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Succession
editIs there still a vice-president? Putin was prime minister when he succeeded Yeltsin. Who takes over if Putin resigns or dies? Richard75 21:04, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
- According to Article 92 of the Constitution, the Prime Minister takes over until elections are held. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Electing the President
editThe article says:
"According to the Constitution of Russia accepted in 1993, the president is elected every four years by a direct vote of the Russian population."
Chapter 4, Article 81.4 of the constitution says:
"The rules for electing the President of the Russian Federation shall determined by the federal law." [1]
What that federal law is, I don't know, and Google's not giving anything reliable.
Jdkkp (talk) 08:07, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- Check Chapter 4, Article 81.1. That is where we got that lead statement from. Gruntbrat (talk) 08:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- I see where that's coming from. Just seems a little broad. Of course that's hardly relevent because that's exactly how it works. Jdkkp (talk) 23:55, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- Our main goal with the lead section is to summarize everything. I suggest that after the requirements section, a section on how a President gets elected can be created and expanded to a greater detail. How does that sound? Gruntbrat (talk) 05:26, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah. What I'm particularly interested in is what happens in between the voter handing off his ballot and the next president's inaguration. That should get some mention here but I suppose, as election laws aren't really directly relevant to the position of President, that sort of belongs in its own article. There is an "Elections in Russia" article but right now it's little more than a summary of past results. Jdkkp (talk) 19:19, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
- Our main goal with the lead section is to summarize everything. I suggest that after the requirements section, a section on how a President gets elected can be created and expanded to a greater detail. How does that sound? Gruntbrat (talk) 05:26, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- I see where that's coming from. Just seems a little broad. Of course that's hardly relevent because that's exactly how it works. Jdkkp (talk) 23:55, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Page should be moved
editThe article should be moved to President of the Russian Federation. Afterall, we has President of the United States, not President of America. GoodDay (talk) 02:18, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- It is not the same case. "Russia" and "Russian Federation" are equal names of the country, according to constitution. Would you move President of Germany to President of Federal Republic of Germany? Don't move.Garret Beaumain (talk) 09:17, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
- It already was moved there by me once, here was the result: (cur) (last) 15:02, 11 March 2007 Superzohar (Talk | contribs | block) m (moved President of the Russian Federation to President of Russia over redirect) (undo) . User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:21, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Who ever moved it to President of Russia must have done so with the 'common usage' argument backing it. Also, I've opened discussions concerning the title at Boris Yeltsin and Vladimir Putin, take a peek. GoodDay (talk) 02:28, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- When I moved it to President of the RF, I did because it was the official title given in the Russian Constitution. However, I don't know what are some of the naming policies are that govern this stuff. Either way, I am not bothered much by the title change and discussion of it. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:46, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Inauguration
editMore out of curiosity than anything, is May 7 an official date? Is it like how the United States used to be, where March 4 was the de facto Inauguration Day? Or is it more like it is now, where the 20th Amendment specifies January 3 for Congress and January 20 for Presidents? -Grahamdubya (talk) 17:58, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- Law says - new president is inaugurated on the day of predecessor term end (its inauguration + 4 years), if there wasn't pre-term election. So, until some president will haven't died, retired or been retired or law will haven't change - the day will have not changed. Alex Spade (talk) 18:26, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Please correct
editPresident in Russian is "Gosudar" (государь) so please correct and also please move to Gosudar of Russia--Certh (talk) 14:42, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
- Мило. Nice joke. Kawai.FeelSunny (talk) 01:09, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
What is going on with duties and responsibilites?
editIm not an expert on this so Id rather not touch it. This article is not very long and I don't see a problem with doing a overhaul on the article by getting rid of the massive list. You guys complain about trivia lists? That's a huge trivia list. 24.188.212.104 (talk) 06:37, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Term length
editThe article [2] needs updating to say that the term length is changing to 6 years (the infobox has this info). --Colapeninsula (talk) 09:10, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
Right to Asylum
editWith regards to Edward Snowden: Does the president of Russia have the right to grant the right to asylum, subject to his personal conditions? --212.201.77.164 (talk) 16:01, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
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Formal fiction vs. facts
editRussia was ruled by a person - Vladimir Putin, not by a President. Medvedyev was Putin's subordinate as President. Some called the system a tandem rule.Xx236 (talk) 11:46, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
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Law change to 'reset' Putin's terms
editFinnish media is reporting that Putin signed a law resetting his term count, thus allowing him to stand for election in 2024 and once more after that. Is this already reflected in the article? --DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:01, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Edit Request for Dmitri Medvedev
editThis sentence needs correction:
"As technocrat and political appointee, Medvedev - Putin's former Chief of Staff and one-time rival to Sergey Ivanov - had never held elective office before 2009."
Since Medvedev was elected President of Russia in 2008 and began his term in May of that year, he indeed had held elected office before 2009. Please adjust this sentence accordingly or perhaps delete it entirely. Thank you. 66.91.36.8 (talk) 04:29, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Post-Presidency Section
editThe "Post-Presidency" section is riddled with syntactical and other errors that impede coherence and readability. A few examples: "15 June 1999 went to President Yeltsin's decree on amendments and additions to the previous decree." The meaning of this sentence is practically indiscernible.
"On 31 December 1999, the day of the resignation of Boris Yeltsin, the president issued a decree 'On guarantees of the Russian Federation President, stop exercising his powers, and his family,' and the eponymous federal law was adopted by 25 January 2001.' This sentence is slightly more coherent, but the wording is more than a little confusing. Is the decree and the federal law one and the same? If so, how is it eponymous? No name appears in the title of the decree. Why the delay between decree and its adoption? Decrees are issued with legal authority. Why would one also need to be adopted at a later date? That seems redundant. Was the adoption by a deliberative body? Would that make the "decree" more akin to a proposed bill? This is all very confusing and I haven't even touched upon the wording of the title of the decree itself, with an awkward "stop exercising his powers" randomly shoved in the middle. Similar phrasing appears haphazardly sprinkled throughout the text of this section: "ceased to carry out its mandate," "ceased to carry out its powers," and so on. There are vague implications of the intended meanings, but to improve the quality of writing, these phrases should be reworded, shifted from their original positions, or possibly eliminated altogether.
I assume much of this section is potentially a translation from the original Russian and that is perhaps what is causing the bulk of the syntactical, grammatical, and sundry coherency errors.
As it is currently written, this section is a struggle to fully comprehend and is in need of revision. I mean no offense toward the author and do not claim any judgment on factual accuracy, as I am no expert on the subject myself. I am simply proffering an assessment of readability from a regular consumer of Wikipedia. 66.91.36.8 (talk) 05:43, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation
editNot 70.68.70.186 (talk) 22:27, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Read the Reliable Sources supporting this. 50.111.15.193 (talk) 22:12, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- FIXED - this is the ENGLISH Wikipedia, post in English!
Missing criticism and scholarly analysis
editComing to the article to get an overview of the powers of the Russian President, am surprised to find the office discussed exclusively in it de jure (written, formal documents, etc.) way and seems not to have the perspective of the rather large scholarly analysis that would describe the actual de facto powers of this position to be autocratic at a minimum, and dictatorial in many ways. Is this the result of some sort of consensus? (which I'm not finding in Talk page history)... or perhaps just an editorial oversight where editors have not added more de facto description of the powers of this office, and its use within the current government of Russia, with appropriate sources? N2e (talk) 11:53, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- That is Putin though. The powers of the president does not include this on paper. Indeed even on paper the president has significant powers where it can be called a hyperpresidential or superpresidential system, though it is not on the level of autocracy. Mellk (talk) 02:46, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Putin Son by Law
editSerbian Village Banovci Danube Located at Many Caffeteria and Restorante called him Kiki 159cm 59kg blue hair blue eyes 109.245.39.210 (talk) 01:38, 20 November 2022 (UTC) Me Uros Susa know him very well — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.245.39.210 (talk) 01:39, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 28 December 2023
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Mr President]]
(informal)
Comrade Supreme Commander"
Comrade supreme commander is not an official name of the president of the russian federation. It should be "Supreme Commander". 31.191.53.5 (talk) 14:13, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Pinchme123 (talk) 04:11, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
American elections
editStay out worry about your own 2601:840:8700:2830:4053:B33E:E053:46F1 (talk) 00:01, 24 September 2024 (UTC)