Talk:Taunton station (Amtrak)
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Latest comment: 8 years ago by Amakuru in topic Requested move 12 February 2016
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Coordinates
editThe station coordinates are off--they point to northeast Connecticut. The correct coordinates are 41.901063,-71.100968. Mackensen (talk) 22:47, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for fixing those long ago. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:25, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Requested move 12 February 2016
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: Both moved as proposed. Discussion on whether to merge the two can be held separately. (non-admin closure) — Amakuru (talk) 13:10, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
- Taunton (Amtrak station) → Taunton station (Amtrak)
- Old Colony Railroad Station (Taunton, Massachusetts) → Taunton station (Old Colony Railroad)
– Per WP:USSTATION. NRHP listings probably shouldn't be treated as WP:OFFICIALNAMEs; there's no evidence (that I've seen) they follow any system. Both Taunton, Massachusetts stations are ambiguous with Taunton railway station in England, which is (for now anyway) the primary topic for Taunton station. Mackensen (talk) 01:35, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
- Support per USSTATION. The second one may need to change if the proposed plan to reuse it comes back on line.--Cúchullain t/c 02:00, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, Taunton station (MBTA) should probably be a redirect. If and when South Coast Rail comes to pass the article can move. Mackensen (talk) 02:02, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
- Support per USSTATION. epicgenius (talk) 02:35, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
- Comment some consideration should be given to merging these two articles since (a) the proposed MBTA station in all likelihood will be the only active station in Tauton going forward, and (b) it would be easier for the reader to follow the history of stations in Taunton in a single article. This would be similar to what has been done for Holyoke station and Union Station (Northampton, Massachusetts), where both articles focus on the active station as well as provide historical information about the many earlier stations that existed in these two cities. FFM784 (talk) 15:56, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
- However, unlike the stations in those cities, these have very distinct and independent histories with much less overlap. It's perhaps more analogous to North Station and South Station. I'm not sure if merging would be very useful. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 17:19, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
- From a reader's perspective it will probably be best to have one article covering stations in Taunton. The current situation is confusing. Taunton (Amtrak station) covers "Taunton Central Station" and discusses the Old Colony Railroad without ever mentioning the difference or linking to Old Colony Railroad Station (Taunton, Massachusetts). It covers the Amtrak station, now apparently just an abandoned platform by the tracks, and then the proposed MBTA station, again with no link to the Old Colony Railroad station where the new station is supposed to be. I'm not seeing anything that couldn't be covered in one article.--Cúchullain t/c 17:45, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
- I don't believe that one article would benefit readers, any more than combining the articles for North Station and South Station simply because they're both terminal stations in Boston. Wikilinks (which this article does have already, incidentally) and/or hatnotes would be much better than trying to address two completely separate histories in a single article. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 15:03, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- This article already covers at least three stations with completely separate histories: the old Taunton Central Station, the Old Colony Railroad Station (Taunton, Massachusetts), the Amtrak station, and the proposed MBTA station at the Old Colony Railroad Station site (there's does seem to be link to the Old Colonry Railroad station, but it's buried in an unintuitive WP:EASTEREGG link under the MBTA station). All that could be presented in a background section for the one station that still exists in Taunton. If the material is to be segregated into separate articles, the Taunton Central material should be removed here.--Cúchullain t/c 18:48, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- I'm not sure you understand the geography here - that's how the articles are currently segregated. Taunton Central, the 1980s/90s Amtrak station, and the briefly-proposed MBTA station all were the Oak Street site on the west side of Taunton; that's what this article covers. The "Old Colony Railroad Station" and the currently-proposed MBTA station are at the Dean Street site, over a mile away on the east side of Taunton on a different railroad line. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:14, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- I understand the geography. I don't think it matters to readers searching for the station(s) in Taunton, who I'm sure would prefer one decent article to several weak ones. But this is a separate matter from the move discussion.--Cúchullain t/c 00:17, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
- I'm not sure you understand the geography here - that's how the articles are currently segregated. Taunton Central, the 1980s/90s Amtrak station, and the briefly-proposed MBTA station all were the Oak Street site on the west side of Taunton; that's what this article covers. The "Old Colony Railroad Station" and the currently-proposed MBTA station are at the Dean Street site, over a mile away on the east side of Taunton on a different railroad line. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:14, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- This article already covers at least three stations with completely separate histories: the old Taunton Central Station, the Old Colony Railroad Station (Taunton, Massachusetts), the Amtrak station, and the proposed MBTA station at the Old Colony Railroad Station site (there's does seem to be link to the Old Colonry Railroad station, but it's buried in an unintuitive WP:EASTEREGG link under the MBTA station). All that could be presented in a background section for the one station that still exists in Taunton. If the material is to be segregated into separate articles, the Taunton Central material should be removed here.--Cúchullain t/c 18:48, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- I don't believe that one article would benefit readers, any more than combining the articles for North Station and South Station simply because they're both terminal stations in Boston. Wikilinks (which this article does have already, incidentally) and/or hatnotes would be much better than trying to address two completely separate histories in a single article. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 15:03, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- From a reader's perspective it will probably be best to have one article covering stations in Taunton. The current situation is confusing. Taunton (Amtrak station) covers "Taunton Central Station" and discusses the Old Colony Railroad without ever mentioning the difference or linking to Old Colony Railroad Station (Taunton, Massachusetts). It covers the Amtrak station, now apparently just an abandoned platform by the tracks, and then the proposed MBTA station, again with no link to the Old Colony Railroad station where the new station is supposed to be. I'm not seeing anything that couldn't be covered in one article.--Cúchullain t/c 17:45, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.