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  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 08:27, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
The phrase seems to be the name of a school in India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.24.111.172 (talk) 14:43, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Perhaps, one of the younger editors is at work.
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"Spring"

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Something ought to make it clear that אביב is the season, not water source etc., given it's ambiguous in English but not Hebrew (as far as I know). -- 31.16.254.214 (talk) 01:38, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Largest city

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The claim for Jerusalem to be the largest city in Israel is true if and only if the population of East Jerusalem is included. Shrike, as a matter of numerical fact, that edit is incorrect. It doesnt have to be worded awkwardly, but it has to be clear that Tel Aviv is only second if EJ is included "in Israel", which is, as everybody who is editing this article knows, is not widely accepted (to put it mildly). nableezy - 03:42, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

First of all, Jerusalem is not a divided city, whether you like it or not. That's why statistics don't differentiate between western and eastern neighborhoods. Second, do you have a reliable source stating that less than 438,000 people live in West Jerusalem or you're just making up a claim based on your imagination? If I'm not mistaken, around 500,000 people live in West Jerusalem, although we should check the real number (if possible). But please, don't come up with one of those propaganda outlets and use it as a valid source.--יניב הורון (Yaniv) (talk) 03:59, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Light rail section is outdated

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It cites old information and only mentions 2 lines when there are 4 confirmed+ 3 metro lines planned. And the first line is scheduled for 2021 and th second and third limes are planned for 2025 Alondon17 (talk) 08:05, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

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Add "Joshua Epstein-violinist" to People Born in Tel Aviv and link to his Wiki page Hettie.epstein (talk) 22:03, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

  Not done for now: WP:WTAF. Your page on Mr. Epstein is still in draft space. —KuyaBriBriTalk 23:48, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

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Change the 176 Dead Link to a working one, you can find an article about Tel Aviv LGBT rights in the following link Hitalicktwice (talk) 15:26, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

  Done It was an AP article so replaced it with a good link to Salon. Izno (talk) 16:06, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Yafo/Jaffa

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Why is there such inconsistent usage of Jaffa vs. Yafo in this article (and others)? Jkp1187 (talk) 02:19, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

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Ahuzat Bayit means something along the lines of "House Estate", "House Property" or "House Manor", definitely not "Building Houses". It should also be mentioned that "Tel Aviv" is the Hebrew name of Hertzl's Altneuland, translated by Sokolov who was one of Tel Aviv's founders, symbolizing both ancient legacy and renewal. "Ancient Hill" should be substituted by "Tell" with a link to the Tell article.

--217.132.26.126 (talk) 09:47, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

The book of Levine gives the translation "building houses", which makes sense as the purpose of the society. The role of Sokolov is already present in the article. Zerotalk 11:18, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
I'm a native speaker of Hebrew and there is no way to interpret it as meaning "building houses", there isn't even a verb in the name. Even in the bible Ahuza only means estate or land property (in modern Hebrew it mostly means manor), and Bayit means house or home in the singular (the t in the end of Ahuzat is due to it being in a construct state). If you really stretch it, interpreting Ahuza to mean building (which it does not) as a noun or a gerund (the construct state is unique to those two), "Ahuzat Bayit" can mean "house building", in the first case like "office building" though it sounds funny in Hebrew and in the second case meaning "building of a house". If that's not a good enough of a source, Tel Aviv's official street name guide states (translated from Hebrew) "[Ahuzat Bayit]'s name is symbolic, as said in the bible 'In the house of the land of your Ahuza [possesion, holding, estate, etc.]' (Leviticus 14)".
Regarding the name "Tel Aviv", the meaning of the name should be explained in the opening paragraph, as it is not a literal name but a symbolic one, and "ancient hill" should be substituted by "tell" as it is a very specific type of hill. Even a line "symbolizing both antiquity and renewal" would be sufficient for the symbolism. --217.132.26.126 (talk) 12:01, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
I love how people who clearly have no idea what they're talking about try to argue with native speakers about the meaning of a basic phrase. There is no way, not in Biblical and not in Modern Hebrew, that אחוזת בית could mean "building houses". When אחוזת בית was founded, it was called אגודת בוני בתים (notice no words here are the same), which means "association of house builders". Its name was later changed to אחוזת בית, which means "House Estate/Property/Manor".

Source for the name change (Hebrew), and if you really don't trust two native speakers, here's a dictionary translation of אחוזה Eladabudi (talk) 07:35, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

@Eladabudi: The encyclopedia doesn't care in the least what "two native speakers" think. Around here we write articles based on reliable sources, not on what we think we know. This is policy. The meaning "building houses" comes from p61 of Mark Levine's scholarly history of Jaffa/Tel Aviv. Of course it could be an editing error and I'm perfectly willing to believe it, but your task is to find a source for your claim and not to display your arrogance towards editors who are trying to obey the rules. Zerotalk 08:49, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
Ahuzat bayit means homestead - [1] [2], [3] ,[4], [5], - If Levine's book gets such a basic fact wrong, it is not a reliable source on this topic and should not be used in the article Attack Ramon (talk) 23:09, 21 May 2019 (UTC)


Tel Aviv-Yafo

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Both the most common, and the official name of the agglomoration, is "Tel Aviv-Yafo", not "Tel Aviv-Jaffa". The fact the former is more common in English, can be checked on e.g. Google search results, where "Tel Aviv-Yafo" has 2,920,000 results and "Tel Aviv-Jaffa" has 1,190,000 results.

Naming the agglomoration as "Tel Aviv-Yafo" has been the longstanding version of the articles here for many years. User:Libhye has been changing all relevant articles to refer to "Tel Aviv-Jaffa" instead of "Tel Aviv-Yafo". His argument is to do with the consistency of using Jaffa (as we use "Jaffa" for Jaffa-specific articles). However, the agglomeration name is not the same as the individual component name. The agglomeration is not the same as the individual district which is part of the name. In addition, there needs to be consensus before changing the name of the city agglomeration. The fact that "Tel Aviv-Yafo" is both the most common name and (for what it is worth) the official name (which is used on all flight tickets, documents, etc), is also easy to verify. Avaya1 (talk) 14:29, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

As you yourself admit, the common name of Jaffa is Jaffa. The argument that despite this, Jaffa should be called Yafo whenever it's preceded by Tel Aviv makes about as much sense as would an argument that Gdańsk should be called Danzig whenever it's preceded by Germans in because Germans in Danzig produces more Google hits than Germans in Gdańsk. In the same way as Danzig refers to Gdańsk even when preceded by Germans in, Yafo refers to Jaffa even when preceded by Tel Aviv.
Tel Aviv-Yafo is not its own name but just the names Tel Aviv and Yafo next to each other. And the common name of the latter is Jaffa. Libhye (talk) 17:35, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
As you refuse to have a discussion, preferring instead to revert even further, I shall be reverting all your edits relating to the name of Tel Aviv-Jaffa. Libhye (talk) 21:05, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

RFC Tel Aviv/Yafo/Jaffa

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The consensus is that the lead and the infobox should read "Tel Aviv-Yafo" since the consensus is that it is both the most common and official name of the city.

Cunard (talk) 01:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

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Three options. Should the lead and the infobox read:

  1. Tel Aviv
  2. Tel Aviv-Yafo
  3. Tel Aviv-Jaffa

El_C 00:26, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Tel Aviv-Yafo is both the most common, and the official name of the agglomeration in English (both of these facts can be easily verified) (while Tel Aviv is the name of the city).Avaya1 (talk) 02:19, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Tel Aviv-Yafo as it is the official name, and is also the title of the attached article on Hebrew Wikipedia. Arabic Wikipedia appears to call the article "Tel Aviv", but then uses Tel-Aviv Yafo for the Hebrew translation and in maps that use English. signed, Rosguill talk 18:44, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Tel Aviv-Jaffa per above. Libhye (talk) 11:50, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Tel Aviv-Yafo - as this is the official name of the city and is widely used. Just Tel-Aviv is inaccurate (as they add Yafo years back). Jaffa is an old English transliteration of the same thing (I think via German or Latin - which is why this has a J (as in Jerusalem) and not a Y (which is how it sounds like in all the local languages). The common name of the Tel Aviv-Yafo combination tends to follow the modern transliteration (as opposed to just Yafo/Jaffa - which has more uses of Jaffa). Icewhiz (talk) 06:56, 18 July 2019 (UTC)


Maybe can this RFC discussion be summarized now? It's been a month. Avaya1 (talk) 23:27, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
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The image of Bloomfield Stadium needs to be updated to File:איצטדיון בלומפילד המחודש, ספטמבר 2019.jpg and change the sentence "Bloomfield Stadium before its demolition in August 2016" to "Bloomfield Stadium"

The value of Bloomfield Stadium must be updated מחסל האגדות (talk) 16:11, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

  Done Sceptre (talk) 23:25, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

'please chance the "Bloomfield Stadium hosting a local derby between Maccabi Tel Aviv and Bnei Yehuda, September 2019" to "Bloomfield Stadium hosting a game between Maccabi Tel Aviv and Bnei Yehuda, September 2019" (talk) 12:34, 08 October 2019 — Preceding unsigned comment added by מחסל האגדות (talk • contribs)

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Instead of writing a whole story about whether Tel-Aviv is the first or second-largest municipality in Israel depending on the status of East Jerusalem (which is not an independent city), It is much less confusing to write "Tel Aviv is the second-largest city under Israeli control (The status of East Jerusalem, part of Jerusalem, the biggest city in Israel is unclear)" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wolfywolfston (talk • contribs) 09:09, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Yafo/Jaffa

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Why isn't this article named 'Tel Aviv-Jaffa'? Why naming it Yafo instead of Jaffa? Many books, (tourist)guides and internet pages call it 'Tel Aviv-Jaffa'. I reckon this should be considered, as no one out of Israel uses the word 'Yafo', with all do respect. I reckon a change of name should be in order. 2001:1C04:230F:AD00:99BC:7C64:DB99:67B8 (talk) 04:12, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

I would also like to point out, that the article concerning Jaffa is still on Wiki. Should we call that article Yafo now? See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa
I reckon that it should be Jaffa, because of the aforementioned Wiki-article. 2001:1C04:230F:AD00:99BC:7C64:DB99:67B8 (talk) 04:24, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Israeli Sign Language name

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I want to add the following passage to the article:

The Israeli Sign Language name is an iconic sign indicating a mask. The sign derives from the 1936 Adloyada, when Deaf people from around the country met one another, and through this managed to establish a community and develop their language.

שונרא (talk) 13:33, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 December 2019

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Under Local Governance - Change: Huldai was reelected for a fourth term in the 2013 municipal elections, defeating Nitzan Horowitz who ran at the head of the Meretz list. to: Huldai was reelected for a fifth term in the 2018 municipal elections, defeating Assaf Zamir, his former deputy and now MK (member of the Knesset) who ran at the head of the Rov Ha'Ir list. 80.230.18.74 (talk) 13:22, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

  Done Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:14, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

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Could someone please remove this image? It's repeated in the Jaffa article anyway, but in Tel Aviv is unnecessary, redundant, misplaced and makes a horrible WP:SANDWICH in the text.--Aroma Stylish (talk) 17:08, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

  Done - QuadColour (talk) 20:09, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Was Tel Aviv originally "part of Jaffa" in common speech?

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Survey of Palestine building in 1930
 
Survey of Palestine map of "Jaffa" in 1943

The headquarters of the Survey of Israel, in central Tel Aviv (Lev Ha-Ir), was described in the 1930s and 1940s as being in Jaffa (see the photo caption, this article by the Survey Director, and the 1943 map to the right). This seems strange, as they were clearly two separate cities then.

Perhaps in the same way that today's "Tel Aviv-Yafo" is usually just referred to as Tel Aviv, back then the metropolitan area of "Jaffa-Tel Aviv" was described in shorthand as simply "Jaffa". Has anyone seen any sources which mention this?

Onceinawhile (talk) 08:06, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Onceinawhile: The gory details of the official relationship are in this article. Regarding the map, there is an urban boundary shown as a heavy dashed line (look for the label in the margin at 1300/1647). It passes to the west of the Survey Dept. (1295/1639), separating the department from Tel Aviv. Zerotalk 03:27, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
I'm sending you a 1:10K map which shows the boundaries more clearly. The Survey Dept was inside the Jaffa town planning boundaries but outside the Tel Aviv municipal boundaries. Zerotalk 03:35, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. I will add this in. Onceinawhile (talk) 10:10, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
@Zero0000: do you know what "T.P." stands for on the same (it says "T.P. boundary")? I assume that is the boundary of the municipality. Onceinawhile (talk) 10:59, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
@Onceinawhile: Town Planning boundary. "Town Planning area" was a defined concept in the various Town Planning Ordinances starting in 1921. Town Planning Ordinance of Feb 1921: "Upon application in that behalf made by the Central Commission, the High Commissioner may order that any area or District shall be a Town-Planning Area. ... The limits of a town-planning area shall be fixed by the Central Town-Planning Commission and shall be stated in the order mentioned in Art. 2." Zerotalk 11:10, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

2.5.5 Arab–Israeli conflict

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Hi there.

It is currently stated in this section that 21 November 2021 Operation Pillar of Defense was the most recent attack in Tel Aviv. It seems the article is locked for editing, so perhaps the admin can update and include the attack at Sarona mall in 2016? Link: https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/08/middleeast/israel-tel-aviv-shooting/index.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miso1217s (talk • contribs) 21:37, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

GaWC 2020 - beta world city

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According to GaWC 2020, Tel Aviv is ranked as a beta world city, other than an alpha world city as informed in the article. This is the primary source: https://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/world2020t.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by FernandoOASJacinto (talk • contribs) 13:16, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Edit request on November 7, 2020

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Could someone please remove this unnecessary image? The article needs some space between images and there's already a picture for Tel Aviv in the 1920s right below.--Soniaphobia (talk) 23:11, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

  Not done: These two images are different in what they show and appear relevant so I am not going to remove them at this time. Terasail[✉] 17:35, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Question

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I'm sure there is a previous discussion on this but why are Yafo and Tel Aviv separate articles if the are under the same municipality? Idan (talk) 11:24, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion

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Can someone add a section about the future metro that'll be built in the Tel Aviv metropolitan area? This could probably be added in either the 'Transportation' or 'Future' section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Impossiblegend (talk • contribs) 21:58, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Edit request 21 Feb 2021

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In the Environment and urban restoration section, the link to Ariel Sharon Park links to Ariel Sharon, please redirect the link to Ariel Sharon Park. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.168.186.186 (talk) 19:54, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Bus station

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To editor Reenem: I believe the bus station is the Old Tel Aviv central bus station, but I can't be sure. It seems much too large for 1920. If this is right, it wasn't established until 1941 so even attributing it to the mandate period is a guess. This page has a photo from the 50s or 60s that looks much the same. Zerotalk 08:41, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

It being the old CBS was my guess too.--RM (Be my friend) 09:31, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

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"The city has the 31st highest cost of living in the world." This is no longer correct (source 8). Tel Aviv has the highest cost of living in the world. Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-59489259 79.178.59.31 (talk) 23:17, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

  Done SpinningCeres 17:02, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

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The population section of infobox says the number of inhabitants per urban and metro, but not the city itself, which is 460,613. Could someone please add the missing population for City?--Corphun (talk) 03:58, 7 March 2022 (UTC) sock

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:35, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

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in 11.3 - light rail, it says work on green line is expected to start at 2028, but as stated in the source (globes article), work is expected to end in 2028.v 2A0D:6FC2:4BF2:9100:894D:E17:FEDC:2B59 (talk) 09:23, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

  Done Indeed, that's what the source says. Good catch! ComplexRational (talk) 13:54, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Economist City Guide

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Can anyone explain why the references citing the Economist City Guide are marked as an unreliable source? To the best of my knowledge The Economist is quite a reputable publication and is a legitimate reference.--RM (Be my friend) 20:03, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

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Information about rental electric scooters should be added to the bicycle section. https://www.touristisrael.com/bird-scooters-tel-aviv/25171/

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/how-shared-scooter-services-changed-the-face-of-tel-aviv-660160 79.178.59.31 (talk) 11:03, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

If you write a few sentences using the source we can gladly add it in. Idan (username is Zvikorn) (talk) 17:19, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. SpinningCeres 17:03, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
I agree. As a resident of Tel Aviv for many years, scooter rentals have significantly impacted the landscape of public transport, as well as the transit infrastructure such as bike paths. Moreover, these scooter rentals (and owned e-bikes/e-scooters) have created significant laws and enforcement efforts around riding on sidewalks. 2603:9001:5009:7807:F1A6:F10E:6DA9:331F (talk) 18:25, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

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“ It is a beta+ world city and is ranked 41st in the Global Financial Centres Index. Tel Aviv has the third- or fourth-largest economy and the largest economy per capita in the Middle East.[9][10]”

According to wikipedias own page on the matter, Tel Aviv is now ranked 57th on the GFC index. 172.58.176.104 (talk) 06:32, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

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Adding a paragraph to the City of Tel Aviv entitled : "Tel Aviv Youth City". Can be part of the 70s section...

Tel Aviv's mythical "Youth City" was a summer event of great significance for young people in the State of Israel, and was operated under the auspices of the Tel Aviv Municipality. Taking place at the exhibition grounds on Sderot Rokah in Tel Aviv, the event drew hundreds of thousands of teenagers during its years of activity in the summer months. The activities on offer were extensive and free, including shows, sports competitions, film screenings, young talent contests, and performances by Israel's most renowned singers and artists. The Youth City lasted three weeks on average (end of July and the beginning of August), taking place every day except from 5 pm to 11 pm, again with free entry.

The "Tel Aviv Youth City" became an incredibly popular and well-known summer tradition and event in Israel, attracting hundreds of thousands of teenagers over the course of about 20 years. The Youth City was entirely run by teenagers, with a "youth mayor" being elected each year. The election of the youth mayor traditionally took place in Tel Aviv's old city hall building. Each deputy was responsible for a different field, such as culture or sports. A few days before the opening of the Youth City, a press conference was held, with the participation of the Tel Aviv-Jaffa Municipality and major, and the head of the Young Youth City Council, in which they discussed what was expected that year in the Youth City, and the activities and events that were planned to be held. This event received relatively extensive coverage in the press at that time, with a daily special edition of the major newspapers. The list of the "youth city" mayors including Oded Harmoni (1963), Kemi Yamolim, Rafi Ongar, Roni Milkovski, Meir Vorontzberg, Yoav Ben Dror, Ofra Persil, Ofer Ettinger (1971), David Feigenblatt, Shimon Manjuk, Amnon Besson, Dov Schwartz, Uri Iram, Tamara Raven Zucker Tilleman (1977), and Aryeh Clemenzon. The last youth mayor was Ronen Sagi in 1980. TiTi2020 (talk) 02:01, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

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Claim of "the highest per capita population of vegans in the world" is dubious.

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I'm pretty sure this is unjustified and here's why but please correct me if I'm wrong:

There's only one source provided and it looks like from it comes from the Israeli government's own Ministry of Foreign Affairs. That's already suspect but I also can't see how they arrived at this conclusion because the link to the archived article doesn't show up for me. Also some quick googling revealed no good non-Israeli sources making this claim. See more of my reasoning here: https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia/comments/12lnhqh/tel_aviv_has_the_most_vegans_per_capita_of_any/jg91wm7/?context=3 Dovmiester (talk) 17:10, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 April 2023

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Please promptly consider changing the claim Tel Aviv "possesses the highest per capita population of vegans in the world". It is currently unsubstantiated and I think adding "may" before "possess the highest..." and adding other sources would make this article more accurate.

I explained how I arrived at this conclusion here:https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia/comments/12lnhqh/tel_aviv_has_the_most_vegans_per_capita_of_any/jg91wm7/?context=3 but in short, the lone source currently behind this claim doesn't work.

Other sources can be used but none seem not completely reliable on this matter since they don't provide rigorous reasoning. Some sources contradict or complicate the certainty behind the claim Tel Aviv "possesses the highest per capita population of vegans in the world".

I have tried to keep this brief but I am happy to elaborate upon request and I appreciate you taking the time to read this. Thank you for your consideration. Dovmiester (talk) 09:31, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

  Partly done: I have attributed the claim to the Israeli ministry of foreign affairs (the source is dead and the archived version doesn't seem to work either). I will leave this for the others to decide whether the extraordinary promotional claim should be removed altogether. M.Bitton (talk) 13:38, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
  Done I think this is an exceptional claim. The Israeli government is at best a somewhat reliable secondary source and at worse a self-published source, depending on how you look at it. Not good enough to say something like this. Snowmanonahoe (talk) 00:28, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

"Considered Part"

Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I'm not sure I understand this addition:

If East Jerusalem is considered part of Israel, Tel Aviv is the country's second-most-populous city, after Jerusalem; if not, Tel Aviv is the most populous city, ahead of West Jerusalem.

By international, Palestinian, and Israeli law, East Jerusalem is not part of Israel. Why don't we add "If Miami is considered a part of Israel, Tel Aviv is the country's second-most-populous city, after Miami; if not, Tel Aviv is the most populous city, ahead of West Jerusalem." or even "If Seoul, Ashgabat, and Miami are considered part of Israel, Tel Aviv is the country's fourth-most-populous city, after Seoul, Ashgabat, and Miami; if not, Tel Aviv is the most populous city, ahead of West Jerusalem." It might get tedious because we'd have to list all the municipalities above 435,000 people but the only alternative is to remove some random editor's annexation of East Jerusalem. Infocidal (talk) 21:14, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 December 2023

Latest comment: 11 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion

In the line: "It was at first called Ahuzat Bayit (lit. 'House Estate' or 'Homestead')" -

Please mention that this name is in Hebrew, and that the translation is to Hebrew.

And please also mention that this was a Jewish neighbourhood.

Thank you Naor25a (talk) 15:13, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shadow311 (talk) 15:45, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Add section for twin towns and sister cities.

Latest comment: 10 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I know that Tel Aviv has at least one sister city, so I'd love to see that added. Pogeons (talk) 20:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Climate

Latest comment: 10 months ago4 comments2 people in discussion

Summers starts in April-May not in June.

May is already completely hot and dry . דולב חולב (talk) 16:19, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

@PAper GOL
don’t you wanna add something about the unique difference from another Mediterranean locations, that here summer\dry season, starts in April ? And that the dry season is completely dry, with 0mm for 5 months! דולב חולב (talk) 14:06, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Said about the dry period. If you think it needs better explanation, then you can change it by yourself. PAper GOL (talk) 14:33, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Thank you but the page is protected/locked דולב חולב (talk) 20:29, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Middle East Research ASH 3230

Latest comment: 9 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

  This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 9 January 2024 and 25 April 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Lotrfan12345 (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Lotrfan12345 (talk) 16:57, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Shoulder seasons

Latest comment: 9 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

But is it wise to say “Spring and Autumn” although the city doesn’t feature 4 seasons?

maybe we can simply mention the months were it occurs? דולב חולב (talk) 05:30, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Biased diction and tone in "State of Israel" section, general need for neutral language

Latest comment: 8 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

The comment in the "State of Israel" section "scored its first aerial victory..." lacks neutral language as the positive connotation of "scored" makes the reader more inclined to side with one group over the other. Moreover, using words like "scored" in the context of war is problematic because it is 1) insensitive and makes those killed in order to obtain "victory" mere numbers, as though it were a game, and 2) exuberates a sense of excitement and presents a biased, nationalistic perspective on the conflict. The opening sentence in the third paragraph "In the 1960s, some of the older buildings were demolished, making way for the country's first high-rises" lacks context and uses language that could lead readers to believe the reason the unspecific "older buildings" were demolished is due to the fact that they were old, essentially taking the development of high rises out of the context of war. The tone of this entire section must be neutral and devoid of nationalism in order to be an effective resource. Matthew Dottor (talk) 06:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

"The city currently has the highest cost of living in the world.[13]"

Latest comment: 8 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

This line in the lede seems outdated. A quick look at the source shows that it comes from a 2022 Survey, The 2023 version of the survey puts Tel Aviv at number 8.

Can someone update or remove the sentence claiming Tel Aviv has the highest cost of living in the world from the article's lede, in order to reflect the newer data? JohnR1Roberts (talk) 00:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Alpha - City not Beta

Latest comment: 7 months ago3 comments2 people in discussion

according Globalization and World Cities Research Network 84.110.218.178 (talk) 09:44, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

? Peace Love10 (talk) 09:08, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Can somebody change it? :) Peace Love10 (talk) 09:08, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 May 2024

Latest comment: 7 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion
Akaganhamilton1 (talk) 17:42, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

I want to make a small edit regarding the cost of living.

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Liu1126 (talk) 18:07, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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